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Cycling from Lourdes to Perpignan

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 16 May 2016 - 10:18am
Hi. I am biking for 10 days in June in the pyrenees and am trying to work out the best route. I'm not keen on cols but just want nice scenery and a bit of a challenge to prepare for RideLondon. Any suggestions on which route tool to use? I have tried plotaroute.com but checked it by doing its suggested route to alexandra palace from camberwell yesterday and it just took me along main roads. Also the times given for different routes are very different from google maps timings. I'm going on my own so keen to get it planned in advance. Any help much appreciated!! Also does anyone know if the main road D117 is ok for cyclists or full of lorries???

Re: Before Pulling for Car - Indicate or Not ?

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 16 May 2016 - 9:49am
PH wrote:I think you just had a bad driver behind you, you're right to complain.....
Bit off the original topic as I had decided to complain, made initial contact (it was Anglian Water) without providing identifying details (yet) and they thought about a bad driver given a official warning on his record caused by a cyclist when "he thought he was such a good driver what he was doing was quite safe", so you create a bad driver who is not angry with these terrible cyclists ...

So, all credit to Anglian Water, they were on the phone to me today explaining about their corporate culture, how they never put pressure on anybody to do anything atall unsafe and how they seek to identify training needs more than give HR more work with "black marks". The gut said how they record and analyse their drivers driving standard (e.g. speed vs speed limits, speed round roundabouts, etc.) and where they find somebody who exhibits habitual poor driving they will provide further training.

But apparently he explained how one challenge they do face is that they also use a lot of contractors who have their Anglian Water logo on their vans and so public cannot tell the difference. From the 1st two characters of the reg we identified it was one of their own vans.

But it also gets worse (for the employee) as it was on a Sat mid-morning and Anglian Water strictly ban personal use and whilst it was possible he was driving to a job (they do work 24/365), the day does make it more likely it was personal use which would also be another major black mark "caused by one of those @£$% cyclists".

So it's all on hold whilst I reflect and I'm probably going to let it pass, the risks being worse than the gain.

But I thought I'd comment that I was impressed that Anglian Water took the complaint seriously enough to call me, to explain their approach and to encourage me to provide full details (and it was a manager from his mobile phone and he was on a site at the time (not some call centre operative there to pacify Mr Angry)).

Ian

Re: Driverless cars in UK this year

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 16 May 2016 - 9:23am
The New Scientist article is essentially a reannouncement of the pods that were announced last year. Nevertheless, it contains some interesting information.

Firstly, we should note that what's announced for the UK is not "cars" but "pods" which will only operate on certain routes. This is much more limited in scope than what Google and others are doing, which is essentially making a car drive itself everywhere. In some ways though the pods are more advanced -- it seems they will be totally self-driving, with no human in charge -- or maybe (more likely) there will be but it's not mentioned. The pods are a step further away from cars in that they don't look like cars. As the "Interior Design" sub-story expands on, self-driving cars will be more like mobile offices/living rooms/hotels/etc than cars; I've thought this to be likely for some time, it's good to see NS saying the same!

Secondly, the terms "chauffeur" and "guardian angel", while perhaps not quite satisfactory linguistically, are useful labels to hang on the processes. "Guardian angel" technology has been creeping into cars for a long time, of course, some obvious examples being anti-lock brakes, parking sensors and those gadgets which turn your lights and wipers on without you thinking about it. It's not such a long step from there to a car which can brake and steer for you in an emergency.

The safety fears over self-driving cars are groundless IMO. There will still be collisions for various reasons but far fewer. The real disaster of self-driving vehicles will be social. With driving made easier, less stressful, cheaper, more comfortable and quicker (intelligent vehicles will cause fewer jams, by talking to each other, negotiating priority at junctions, and not doing stupid things like stopping on a crossroads), it will be even more attractive to even more people. But self-driving cars will not reduce the effects of isolation, both on vehicle occupants and on those marooned the wrong side of a busy road. Urban planning will be more important than ever. Add to this the effects on a whole sector of employment -- lorry drivers, bus drivers, taxi drivers, pizza delivery scooters -- and think that driving will no longer be an excuse not to be working, and we're in for some upheaval.

Re: Sri Lanka

I was there Jan/Feb for a month. I then went back a week later, but had to abandon due to death of a friend. It was my 4th trip since 1980.

The Jan/Feb trip was to North and East.

Happy to answer any questions.

Re: Before Pulling In For Car - Indicate or Not ?

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 16 May 2016 - 8:56am
I realized out in the lanes yesterday that the time between my signal (which is usually a waving forward with the right hand rather than a left turn signal) and my pulling in/slowing down is more like half a second than two seconds. Really it functions as confirmation that what I am doing is deliberate rather than an indication of intention.

Re: Driverless cars in UK this year

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 16 May 2016 - 8:28am
A few weeks back there was a report of a driverless car in America colliding with a bus. The report said that the driverless car was coming out of a junction at 2mph and the bus (which had right of way) was travelling at 15mph - obviously the driverless car hadn't detected the bus.
Substitute a cyclist for the bus and you would have a familiar scenario.

Sri Lanka

I'm off for a month touring around the north and east of the island.

Anyone going to be there during July?
Anyone been there? Tips?
Any contacts on the island?

I've doing plenty of planning and blog reading.
B&B/ hostels. No camping!

Fly out June 26. Back July 23.

Thanks folks

Re: New Route Planner

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 May 2016 - 11:26pm
gloomyandy wrote:with cycle.travel my routes all have the same name "cycle.travel" when I download them to a Garmin 520 using .tcx format. Is there a way to set the name of a route? Do I need to be logged in to do this? I really like what I've seen so far and will be testing the actual routes generated on the bike over the next few days.
If you save the route in Cycle.travel (you'll need to be registered) - go into "my [bicycle symbol]" > Journeys & make it private if you don't want the world to see it (it would be nice to have that as a save option ) - then the GPX/TCX you download will have that name.

Rick.

Re: New Route Planner

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 15 May 2016 - 11:09pm
with cycle.travel my routes all have the same name "cycle.travel" when I download them to a Garmin 520 using .tcx format. Is there a way to set the name of a route? Do I need to be logged in to do this? I really like what I've seen so far and will be testing the actual routes generated on the bike over the next few days.

Kermess Races

Cycling UK Forum - Racing - 15 May 2016 - 9:07pm
My Summer Holiday this year will be in Zeeland and I was hoping to find some Kermess races to watch. Does anyone know of a website where they are posted?

Re: First cycle tour - kit advice

Do you know I never really thought of comparing things to rucksack sizes. We both have a pair of ortlieb panniers which IIRC make up 40 litres. Add in perhaps 7 litre bar bag and drg sacks on top of the rack in my case and you could easily end up with up to 120 litres between the two of us. Now In backpacking I got down to 20 litres on my own, 32 litres for about 3 or 4 days or 50 litres with 15 litre overload but only if I was doing over 7 days in Scotland in didgy weather without coming down from the hills at all. More often than not those 7 day plus trips never even filled the 5 litre sack.

So this makes me think even using a big tent (3 man with extended porch) instead of a micro tarp and bivvy we can easily ce with the load in terms of packing it in. I was talking with my partner about this and she told me to not be so silly, panniers and the top of the rack will be good enough and I'll have no problem with handling. She only ever used panniers, top of rack and bar bag. I just need a bar bag now but the ortleib ones are too expensive. I was wondering whether to get an Alpkit Stingray or possum frame bag and possible one of their bar bag bikepacking thingies instead of a bar bag. I could stash the sleeping bag and other stuff in that but would it affect handling much? My quilt is 690g but I could stash my sleeping bag in there as well which weights about 1kg. My bag and quilt combined are lighter than our other sleeping bags plus pack a lot smaller too.

I wanted to try a loaded ride today but coudn't get out. Only a 17 mile ride over local roads but some hills so a good test. WIll try another weekend. It'll be July when we go away I think so enough time for a trial.

Trailer is probably sensible but since we intend to take trains at some point I think it would be easier to leave the trailer at home if at all possible

Re: South Downs Way on a touring bike ??

I've done SDW several times on a MTB. On a dry day I would say it could be done on a tourer, although I wouldn't fancy it.
In the wet I would suggest it would be dangerous. I came off several times with knobbly tyres and lacked grip in some of the hills, even with those.


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Re: One bike for climbing, one for descending?

Cycling UK Forum - Racing - 15 May 2016 - 5:57pm
I thought Chris Froome did it in 2013, there was debate as to whether the mechanic should have been allowed to give him a push start, as he had elected to swap bikes but had no mechanical problems. Here's an article-

http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/07/ ... ial_295701

I've often wondered whether any bottles and clothing handed to riders at the tops of climbs are really just weights, to give them an advantage descending.

Re: Long touring without front panniers

FarOeuf wrote:, if you want to ride faster they're more aerodynamic, etc, etc....


Now, there is a lot which I agree with in your post, particularly in regard to having a choice being a good thing, and it's just a case of going with whatever is your preference. But I have to object to unsubstantiated claims to scientific fact.

I take it that your are assuming that, because the frame bag presents a slightly narrower front profile (sans rider, at least), that means it is more aerodynamic, but aerodynamics is not that simple. I could equally argue that, since an equivalent volume of panniers would be mounted further back (and crucially, behind the rider) and lower to the ground, then panniers would be more aerodynamic - there is a reason that fighter jets and fast cars tend to be wedge shaped.

And I would equally be making an unsubstantiated claim based on opinion, not fact. At the end of the day, any differences are going to be trivial, and dependant on the exact setup - and even the materials used.

I am not trying to be argumentative, I just think that spurious claims of 'fact' on a matter that is almost entirely subjective, does nothing to help matters.

Re: Agressive close pass Bath area

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 15 May 2016 - 4:07pm
As nice as the area of Bath and it's surrounds are, I've had more run ins with with anti-social idiots than much rougher parts of the country I've lived in. I'm sorry it happened to you and I hope it was just sunny, high jinx mischievousness rather than genuine maliciousness.

I'll swap a spin on your bent for being your security wingman [emoji6]

Agressive close pass Bath area

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 15 May 2016 - 3:55pm
As there are one or two locals here I thought it meet to post this. Was travelling along Monkton Combe village high street in a westbound direction at about 5pm this afternoon (Sunday May 15). No other vehicles or cycles in sight. I became aware of engine noise to the rear, glanced in my mirror to see a dark blue saloon car approaching rapidly from behind. Before I could react, the vehicle passed at speed with the passenger's left arm fully extended out of the window, either to steal my admittedly very cool hat, or to make a crude gesture. As the street bends and obscured my line of sight, I did not have time to note make or registration other than that the final letters were WPU.

Not really what you'd expect in the urban badlands of Monkton Combe (Harry Potter would find it very nostalgic) but that's cars for you I suppose, they go places.

I hope this was just a one off, but in case it's a serial offender I am recording it here.

Re: Janet Street Porter

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 15 May 2016 - 2:13pm
Bicycler wrote:Of course there are inconsiderate cyclists. Where did either of us imply otherwise? For that matter there are inconsiderate pedestrians. Inconsiderate cyclists and the infinitely greater danger of motor vehicles haven't yet made walking the streets anywhere near as unfeasible to the average person as cycling.

Covered in the Wiki article:

Swiss psychiatrist Carl Jung considered indeed that "there must be some people who behave in the wrong way; they act as scapegoats and objects of interest for the normal ones

Re: Janet Street Porter

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 15 May 2016 - 1:38pm
reohn2 wrote:Bicycler wrote:ANTONISH wrote:IMO pedestrians often get the worse of things- being herded to inconvenient crossings and always having to be aware that the pavement may not always be exclusively used by pedestrians.
Nah, I don't buy that. Pedestrians are also victims of the tyranny of the motocracy but cyclists have it worse...
Absolutely spot on!
And it's a disgrace that it continues as it does,with cycling organisations(no names mentioned)folding meekly to the motoring bullies.
ANTONISH wrote:And there are no cycling bullies riding through red lights on pedestrian crossings and riding too fast on shared use paths or cycling on dedicated pedestrian paths ?
Of course there are inconsiderate cyclists. Where did either of us imply otherwise? For that matter there are inconsiderate pedestrians. Inconsiderate cyclists and the infinitely greater danger of motor vehicles haven't yet made walking the streets anywhere near as unfeasible to the average person as cycling.

Re: Before Pulling In For Car - Indicate or Not ?

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 15 May 2016 - 10:26am
Mainly I indicate before a left hand turn when being followed by a fellow cyclist. I will do the same with a car on a narrow road, mainly as a warning that I could be slowing. On single track roads, I will tend to pull in and stop without signalling to allow a following vehicle to pass. Sometimes I will wave a hesitant motorist to overtake when I can see the road ahead is clear, and I feel there is sufficient room for them to do so safely.
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