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Re: Trailer Loading

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 April 2016 - 4:57pm
Thanks all, weight on a bike is always going to affect handling somehow, and I knew that a weeks shopping was going to be more than it should carry, just wondered if there was a clever way to distribute what will be its 'normal' load of touring stuff

Re: Touring Ireland End to End

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 April 2016 - 4:32pm
ambodach wrote:Eric Newby did a book " Round Ireland in Low Gear" . Published some time ago as paperback but probably still available. He started with a litre bottle of whisky as part of his luggage. Wanda his wife was there as well. Interesting book.
The only advantage of reading it before you go is that you will learn that trying to do a bicycle tour of Ireland in November is probably going to be a very bad idea. Read it when you get back and then you can laugh at his misfortunes.

Ireland has many very quiet little country roads. If you select them, you can have a lovely and mostly quiet ride. However there are a few places it is difficult to get past only on the quiet roads. Galway in particular is not a pleasant place to get through/past on a bicycle, there just aren't any quiet ways in/out of the place for quite some distance around it. And in the city itself the arrangements for cyclists are so spectacularly annoying it really does appears to be deliberate rather than incompetent.

Re: A positive thread

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 23 April 2016 - 4:29pm
Rode 30 miles yesterday mainly on roads in central Sussex and all drivers, including a bus, van with very large trailer and high powered sports car, overtook me with comfortable clearance - except one - a driving instructor!

A ride in the Rockies

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 April 2016 - 3:48pm
Some thoughts on the article in April/May Cycle. It certainly is a wonderful part of the world. If you want to maximize the spectacular stuff it may be possible to fly into Vancouver, catch a train to Jasper, ride to Banff and catch a train back to Vancouver. You'll have to research the trains yourself. Last summer I caught a train from Vancouver to Jasper and rode to Portland Oregon via the Icefields Parkway and Banff, so I've no idea how or if the Banff-Vancouver thing works but it looks like it would be fun if it's doable.

Between and including Jasper and Banff you can stay in hostels every night. There's nothing in the way of grocery stores on the way and the hostels don't do meals but they do have cooking facilities and even the 'primitive' ones are pretty comfortable i.e. earth rather than flush toilets and one had no electricity, you wash in the creek etc.. I was very lucky in several respects: I had sunshine all the way but be aware you can get snow in July at higher elevations; last year was a very mild year for mosquitos which can be pretty grim and I had a blessedly uneventful encounter with a grizzly bear just before the highest point on the Parkway, Bow Summit. The road at that point is a four lane highway and I was going very, very slow (I found out later my bike and gear weighed 80 lbs!) and a bear walked out in front of me, I stopped, he (or she) stopped, looked straight at me, decided he wasn't interested and carried on across the road. I suppose I was about 30 ft away. The author of the article mentions bears and they are a very real presence. I regret not getting a picture but a lady from Alaska I met on the train back from Portland told me I did the right thing not taking pictures; you don't want to do anything that might get their attention. He had a head the size of a cow's that looked exactly like an enormous teddy bear's. Actually I was too scared to do anything. I didn't have any but you may want to consider getting bear spray at the start of your trip, it's readily available in Canada.

So I heartily second Lewis Smith's recommendation. I further recommend Adventure Cycling's Great Parks North map. I can't speak to anything east of Banff. For general BC riding there's Cycling British Columbia by Paul Wood ISBN 978-0-9684826-2-9.

Re: Is this Justice for killing some one?

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 23 April 2016 - 1:26pm
ArMoRothair wrote:hatless wrote:But I also agree that driving bans are too short. Our culture seems to think that a driving ban is like being sent to Botany Bay, exclusion from society. Cyclists know that you can have a good life without a driving licence. The short bans reflect society's addiction to the car.

I agree. The driving licence is a licence, it's not a right. I think driving licences should automatically be revoked once the driver has caused a death, regardless of however accidental it was, or remorseful the driver is after the fact.

Don't we do the same with a gun licence?

The question is, how long should the ban last. It's not an easy, clear-cut answer, for me. It's probably a case-by-case thing. How bad was the driving that resulted in someone losing their life? Was it grossly irresponsible driving resulting in an all too predictable outcome, or a momentary lapse of concentration with disproportionately disastrous consequences? If the driver made a mistake and a life was lost, yes, a ban of some length seems necessary. A life ban for the most reckless offenders.

Re: Touring Ireland End to End

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 April 2016 - 1:18pm
@Robing, in your blog you rave about the B&B you stayed in in Sligo as the best of the whole trip.
You don't happen to remember the name of it do you?
We are doing the Donegal section of the Wild Atlantic Way in June, end up in Sligo and could do with a cracking place to rest.
Thanks!

Re: What gilet for summer?

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 April 2016 - 12:30pm
Sweep wrote:

Would you say that it can also be worn inside a sleeping bag for extra warmth?

Yes, that's just the sort of usefulness for touring that I meant.

Slightly off topic, I recently bought some merino thermals specifically for nightwear from Mountain Warehouse. They were actually cheaper (£19.99) in store, than their on line price.

It was at their outlet in the Galleria at Hatfield.

Re: Is this Justice for killing some one?

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 23 April 2016 - 12:18pm
karlt wrote:but because seccades (http://www.londoncyclist.co.uk/raf-pilo ... -cyclists/) misses an oncoming motorcyclist who dies as a result of the collision;



Hmm well either I'm weird or that article is glossing a bit as I quite obviously do process and see the blurred image, regardless it's not really an excuse. Plenty of people do manage to check both ways properly, if someone cannot, even if the reason for that is biologically inbuilt, then why should they be allowed to drive? They certainly would find it a struggle to get a licence to do a range of other equally dangerous tasks.

Re: What gilet for summer?

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 April 2016 - 11:39am
Thanks for that norman.

Interesting.

Would you say that it can also be worn inside a sleeping bag for extra warmth?

This from the description made me smile:

》》This clever piece is also fully reversible, not only giving you contrasting colour options to suit your outfit, but ideal for those times when someone else turns up wearing the same thing.

Nice to see that the social faux pas of emerging from your woodland free camp to encounter another in the same outfit is appreciated, and catered for.

Re: Trailer Loading

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 April 2016 - 11:34am
You need to put as much weight towards the rear wheel as possible, other wise is not much different from having panniers as the weight on the bike rear wheel - thats where 2 wheel trailers with the platform over the rear wheel score? I would have thought that type of trailer better for shopping. The trouble with these single wheel trailers is they share the weight between the rear wheel of the bike and the trailer wheel - the closer the centre of gravity of the load to the rear wheel the more the weight is there and so on. In a way these single wheel trailers are not a good idea as the best you can usually get is to 1/2 the weight on the bike rear wheel, with the load in the centre of the trailer?

re the bobyak. last summer spoke to a cyclo tourist up the Mall in London with such. He had had attached a little flickable leg to the trailer so that when down it would keep the trailer up right and not fall over

Re: What gilet for summer?

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 April 2016 - 11:28am
I snagged one of these a while back. I only paid £18 for mine but it's still good value at £22.

Clothing that you can wear both on and off the bike is useful when touring. It's not down but it packs very small and is reversible. The Yellow is handy on the bike if you want high viz.

Re: What gilet for summer?

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 April 2016 - 10:46am
Andymiller/Sweep - padded gilet: any misunderstanding is down to my lack of description as to what I was looking for and why.

The term 'gilet' covers a lot of garment types ranging from windproof shells (like a simple anorak without sleeves) to down or synthetic filled versions.

A number of postings have suggested windproof garments alone, but in my experiences on the long Alps decents, this is not enough as the continuous chill windflow across the body (which is invariably damp from sweat created in the ascent) saps the heat away very quickly. I'm talking of descents lasting 45 minutes plus here.

So the idea with a padded (down synthetic) gilet was to provide an insulated layer to reduce the heat loss (and a gilet rather than a jacket as my arms keep warm enough but not my torso and a gilet is less bulky).

Thanks for the many suggestions which will of course serve other readers well too

Re: Advice / Touring Partner wanted for UK to Scandinavia!

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 April 2016 - 10:21am
Here are a couple of photos from Rallarvegen. The first one is the shortest of 3 or 4 places that we had to cross snow on Rallarvegen last September. This one was the only one that I could easily photograph from far enough away to see people crossing it. This others, I went round a bend to find the path covered in snow. It probably would have been possible to ride across some parts, with studded tyres. As you can see, others had gone across and left a track. I did try riding across one section, but it was a bit slippery. I had a good laugh when I cam off into the snow

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The second is the hill going down from Vatnahalsen towards Flåm. I took this photo from the Flåmsbana train.

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Re: Advice / Touring Partner wanted for UK to Scandinavia!

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 April 2016 - 10:06am
Upsette and Uppsete are two different places.

However, they are relatively close together. I don't think that I would try to cycle between Myrdal and Uppsete. I might consider walking it, if there wasn't too much snow up there. The Oslo-Bergen line has 4 stations on or near Rallarvegen, and all of them are accessible with bikes, even if it isn't shown that way on the map. You can also take the train from Voss. Part of the distance from Voss can be cycled, but there is one section that isn't accessible, and cyclists have to take the train.

As for tunnels, there is lots of advice on the the other threads I have linked earlier, but cyclists are banned from lots of tunnels in Norway.

Statens Vegvesen (the Norwegian Dept. for Transport) has a nice map with all the tunnels on it, and it is colour-coded about whether cyclists can use them. http://www.vegdata.no/2014/06/17/cyclin ... n-tunnels/ scroll down to almost the bottom of the page and click on the vegkart-query. This will take you to a map the shows all of the places where cyclists are banned. If it is red, or has a red circle in the middle, cyclists are banned. If it's cyan/turquoise, cyclists are allowed. If it's green, there is no value associated (we don't know if cyclists are banned).

Cycletourer also has a map http://www.cycletourer.co.uk/maps/tunnelmap.shtml The Vegevesen map is probably the most up-to-date, but Cycletourer's map has some identified as being cyclists banned, where the Statens Vegvesen map shows 'unknown', in which case I would use Cycletourer's information.

Re: Is this Justice for killing some one?

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 23 April 2016 - 9:49am
hatless wrote:But I also agree that driving bans are too short. Our culture seems to think that a driving ban is like being sent to Botany Bay, exclusion from society. Cyclists know that you can have a good life without a driving licence. The short bans reflect society's addiction to the car.

I agree. The driving licence is a licence, it's not a right. I think driving licences should automatically be revoked once the driver has caused a death, regardless of however accidental it was, or remorseful the driver is after the fact.

Don't we do the same with a gun licence?

Re: Is this Justice for killing some one?

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 23 April 2016 - 9:20am
I would argue that the first may not have been aware of the risk they were presenting, whereas the second was. I don't think you can effectively deter things people don't realise they are doing. I think you will achieve more in educating drivers about issues like seccades; the deterrence argument for severe sentencing falls on two counts in this case - firstly, that I don't think drivers are intentionally performing the act you wish to deter, and secondly, there is plenty of evidence that severity of sentence has little deterrent effect anyway; the deterrence is in likelihood of detection.

Re: Is this Justice for killing some one?

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 23 April 2016 - 9:17am
karlt wrote:It's a hard line to draw; with RTAs there's not necessarily any correlation between the badness of the driving and the severity of the consequences. On which factor should sentencing depend?

Take an extreme comparison.

Case 1. Driver stops at side road, looks both ways, but because seccades (http://www.londoncyclist.co.uk/raf-pilo ... -cyclists/) misses an oncoming motorcyclist who dies as a result of the collision;

Case 2. Driver speeding around built up area at 60mph, eventually messes up a corner and collides with a road sign. No injuries.

Now put yourself in the sentencing shoes of a judge or magistrate. The second case clearly shows far worse driving, and far less care or concern for other road users. But the first case has a far worse outcome. My personal sense of justice can't help but feel case 2 actually warrants a more severe sentence.

As a motorcyclist, I would rather that motorists looked effectively rather than in a tokenistic way that can be fooled by such a phenomenon. Seccades doesnt fool a proper look and a proper look should be an ingrained habit.
I would argue that both drivers were taking risks with others lives but the first was doing it in the same way as the majority and will be forgiven for that reason, in the interest of safety we need the majority to change its habits as that will save more lives.
Why should the majority bother changing its habits when the risks fall entirely on the victim and their position in the majority protects them from any deterrent based punishments. Even no-claims can be protected!

Re: Is this Justice for killing some one?

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 23 April 2016 - 9:01am
It's a hard line to draw; with RTAs there's not necessarily any correlation between the badness of the driving and the severity of the consequences. On which factor should sentencing depend?

Take an extreme comparison.

Case 1. Driver stops at side road, looks both ways, but because seccades (http://www.londoncyclist.co.uk/raf-pilo ... -cyclists/) misses an oncoming motorcyclist who dies as a result of the collision;

Case 2. Driver speeding around built up area at 60mph, eventually messes up a corner and collides with a road sign. No injuries.

Now put yourself in the sentencing shoes of a judge or magistrate. The second case clearly shows far worse driving, and far less care or concern for other road users. But the first case has a far worse outcome. My personal sense of justice can't help but feel case 2 actually warrants a more severe sentence.

Re: Trailer Loading

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 April 2016 - 8:58am
I was somewhat surprised that your front wheel came up on being pushed, with the two wheel trailer it is the rear wheel that comes up (though you are normally pushing up a steep hill rather than on the flat).

This means that you have weight on your tow hitch, I would be interested to find out if moving the load's centre of mass on the trailer further back and over its wheel improved your handling.
My two wheel trailer has not ever upset me when being loaded nose heavy but the hitch is right at the axle and has no leverage on the bike.

Re: Trailer Loading

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 23 April 2016 - 8:40am
Single wheel trailers are not best suited to heavy loads, they are inherently unbalanced, put stress on the frame and affect steering.
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