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Cairnryan to Ardrossan

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 April 2016 - 4:41pm
For a number of years my son and I have done a tour of the Inner Hebrides and Kintyre. We crossed from Larne to Troon and then caught the ferry from Ardrosan to Broddick. The Larne to Troon ferry has been discontinued. However we want have our usual tour. WE shall cross from Larne to Cairnryan. Could anyone suggest a route from Cairnryan to Ardrossan avoiding the main road with an overnight stay about 10 to 20 Miles from Cairnryan ? Many thanks

Cairnryan to Ardrossan

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 April 2016 - 4:40pm
For a number of years my son and I have done a tour of the Inner Hebrides and Kintyre. We crossed from Larne to Troon and then caught the ferry from Ardrosan to Broddick. The Larne to Troon ferry has been discontinued. However we want have our usual tour. WE shall cross from Larne to Cairnryan. Could anyone suggest a route from Cairnryan to Ardrossan avoiding the main road with an overnight stay about 10 to 20 Miles from Cairnryan ? Many thanks

Re: Appropriate words of advice ?

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 25 April 2016 - 4:37pm
Hi,
In the past I have had a police man shake his fist at me.
Not in a million years would this happen today and get away with it.

I am with Mick F on this they work for us like MP's should also not for them selves, I have several police in the family so I know they are very normal and do what the rest of us do BUT they should not act this way when on duty in full view for sure.

Re: The worst training route ever?

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 25 April 2016 - 4:36pm
eileithyia wrote:Spend your winters in Mallorca where there are a mix of roads inc, long straight via de serveis alongside the motorways... good for some flat out efforts and no speed bumps,multiple junctions, no lights etc......
I can ride to work, horwich - preston at 05:40-07:15 at a high pace with a good av speed only to see that av speed disappear downwards as I hit the outskirts of Bamber bridge/ preston and have to slow / stop for various junctions, lights, etc........

Your route sounds horrendous and I find anywhere where i ride with multiple junctions, speed bumps etc around lancashire lanes only gives me an average speed of 13-15mph for a ride while on flat sections i can be topping 18-20mph, once the TT season starts i easily top 20mph average.

Sounds great but no can do. Bought in Tenerife in 2001 when I was running marathons and got fed up with training on the edge of the moors in driving rain, hail and snow so opted for a place in the sun where 20C is the minimum temperature you can expect all winter. Now I'm on the bike the weather's still ideal but now I've given up the mountain climbs for a while, the other roads are rubbish. I'll know in a week or two if this winter has worked for me or not. It's three years since I raced so I haven't a base line to compare and three years at my age can make a big difference to capability. Like you've experienced, I'm hoping the road system has slowed me down significantly and that I'm fitter than my rides suggest.
Cheers

Re: What camera?

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 25 April 2016 - 4:28pm
The MD80 I use was £6. The battery pack £3. The bungees £2. The class 10 memory card cost as much as the rest put together

Re: Panniers for weekend tours

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 April 2016 - 4:26pm
MrsHJ wrote:I don't think I would categorise myself as experienced in such illustrious company but I've spent far too much time trying to extract bits of shredded bungee from various parts of the rear derallieur etc I find for regular trips my kids bags that are mounted with clips and then have an elastic retainer bit at the bottom can have the elastic bit shorn off to avoid the inevitable "mummy, my rear wheel won't turn".
More experienced than me! In thirty-mumble years cycling, I've only ever done day trips or the very occasional overnight, where I feel I can get away with fewer clothes and tools than a long weekend.

I may be being dim, but I'm interpreting the above as advice to go for the double panniers because they're less trouble on the bike. Even if I use my bungees with the smaller singles, there's little chance of getting them stuck in anything because their ends are connected to the axle http://brilliantbikes.co.uk/accessories ... avert.html and no chance that they'll foul my rear derailleur because I don't have one on that bike.

Re: Channel Isles

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 April 2016 - 4:16pm
Another thing worth mentioning is that cycling away from Town off the ferry can be a pain due to traffic as there is no really quiet route out if you arrive at a peak time and main roads cannot really be avoided. But do not be put off as once away there are lots of quieter lanes to go on that avoid the main routes. A lot of our roads can be narrow so that often cars cannot overtake bikes due to on-coming traffic. Also our Filter in Turn junctions are unique, look like box junctions in the UK, but literally each vehicle filters out in turn from each entry point, with a bit of courtesy they work great once you know what they are.

The shipwreck museum at Fort Grey on the west coast is well worth a visit, small enough to keep one's attention and fascinating. Otherwise enjoy the natural scenery.

Do get in touch if you want anything or just to say hi when you are in Guernsey.

Re: Poor maintenance

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 25 April 2016 - 3:54pm
ANTONISH wrote:Samuel D wrote:But why should only people like that cycle?



I don't think anyone is suggesting that. It isn't unusual to find cyclists on a club run who struggle to deal with a puncture.
It's just that I can't imagine going out cycling without the means or ability to perform a simple task like mending a puncture (or at least being able to change a tube).
What's simple to you is difficult or intimidating to others. Different people have different talents and capabilities. Some people don't have the physical strength to do it. Some people just don't understand how stuff goes together. Others may know in concept, but have never actually changed an inner tube for themselves. I learned to fix my own bike when I was a child because my mother barely knew which end of a hammer to point at stuff.

Re: The worst training route ever?

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 25 April 2016 - 3:43pm
Dynamite_funk wrote:Sounds like you are out on the south of the island. Why not try the north west/east? I think you can take bikes on to the buses there can't you?

Yes, I'm in the south just about midway between the two water parks in Adeje. Too cold and wet in the north. Google Earth will show you how little space there is between the sea and the high ground. There are practically no decent level quiet roads on the island to ride, even if you can get there by bus. I'm just hoping that 14 -15 mph on these roads equates to 17 - 18 mph on better roads at home.

Re: Appropriate words of advice ?

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 25 April 2016 - 3:29pm
Mick F wrote:brynpoeth wrote:How would you respond to being talked to in this way? Would you complain to the Chief Constable that the cop was disrespectful?I would've responded like you did. Accept I'd been caught and think myself lucky.

However, complain the the CC?
Possibly, yes, but I'd give a week or too and only complain in general terms and not specifically.

We pay their wages. They are not gods or put on this earth to rule us with rods of iron. They get grumpy like the rest of us, but you wouldn't accept that behaviour from a private company personnel. If they spoke to the public like that, the firm would be out of business PDQ.
But they're not a private company,if they were they'd be issuing tickets like confetti!
I'll take the rollocking any time and I'd accept it.
There's some very 'sensitive' souls about

Re: Poor maintenance

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 25 April 2016 - 3:25pm
Jogging is about 4 times harder (in terms of energy expended) than cycling (flat ground).

So a 5 mile jog is like a 20 mile bike ride, it is to me anyway.

5 mile jog... I wouldn't do that if you paid me, but 30 mile bike rides are no problem.

Perhaps jogging is even harder than 4x harder than cycling then, I have no idea really, just guessing from my own knackeredness after doing both.

The only time I ran 5 miles in one go was drunk at 2:30AM after missing my taxi and wanting to get home quicker. Running in formal shoes lol. Its the sort of thing I would need to be drunk to do and I was. Ankles were sore for 5 days lol. That lactic acid.

Re: What camera?

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 25 April 2016 - 3:15pm
Are there any recommendations for a sub £50 cam from you chaps and chapettes?
I ask because I witnessed the worst driving I've ever seen today and didn't have cam footage to give the police so it's gone unreported.
Basically an audiot overtaking me by driving in excess of 30mph on the footpath just to beat me to the lights. I was taking the lane to prevent close passes on a short stretch of road where one lane was closed due to canal works....reinforcing the canal banking.
A very heated argument developed between the driver and I when I caught up with him.
Fuming isn't the word.

Re: Appropriate words of advice ?

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 25 April 2016 - 3:09pm
brynpoeth wrote:How would you respond to being talked to in this way? Would you complain to the Chief Constable that the cop was disrespectful?I would've responded like you did. Accept I'd been caught and think myself lucky.

However, complain the the CC?
Possibly, yes, but I'd give a week or too and only complain in general terms and not specifically.

We pay their wages. They are not gods or put on this earth to rule us with rods of iron. They get grumpy like the rest of us, but you wouldn't accept that behaviour from a private company personnel. If they spoke to the public like that, the firm would be out of business PDQ.

Re: Bike friendly hotel Tours

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 April 2016 - 3:03pm
Formule 1 hotels: You can check in 24 hrs a day and put your bike in your room. Cheap, basic with a good value buffet breakfast.

ZAC de la Vrillonnerie, 3 Rue Philippe Maupas, 37170 Chambray-lès-Tours, France

http://www.accorhotels.com/gb/booking/r ... d=36627861

Re: The worst training route ever?

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 25 April 2016 - 2:55pm
It sounds like you are riding too far and too fast and also not far enough and too slow at the same time.

If you really want to go faster try the following for six weeks, but see your doctor first.

Session 1: 15 minute warm up then 1 & 1/2 to 2 & 1/2 hours at a pace you can maintain throughout (without going fast up the hills) but certainly isn't easy.

two speed session of intervals:
1) 15 minute warm up the 4 minutes just about as fast as you can maintain the same pace for four minutes then 1 minute steady to recover. Then repeat until the you find yourself not being able to hold the same pace as the first interval, but certainly no more than 6 times in total. 15 minutes cool down.

2) 15 minute warm up the 1 minutes just about as fast as you can maintain the same pace for 1 minute then 1 minute steady to recover. Then repeat until the you find yourself not being able to hold the same pace as the first interval, but certainly no more than 6 times in total. 15 minutes cool down.

You can do other leisure ridings and getting about but make sure you are rested for the training rides.

After 6 weeks have an easy week and instead of the longer ride do a short easy one.

Next week do your time-trial. Not suggesting you just do one every six weeks but target one, club champs?

Best place to do the interval sessions is as mentioned above is a turbo-trainer. Also some way of measuring output is useful, power is best if not HR though this lags behind effort especially one 1 minute intervals.
I know it's boring, it's also a bit miserable but if you want to go faster.

Re: Poor maintenance

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 25 April 2016 - 2:21pm
Samuel D wrote:But why should only people like that cycle?



I don't think anyone is suggesting that. It isn't unusual to find cyclists on a club run who struggle to deal with a puncture.
It's just that I can't imagine going out cycling without the means or ability to perform a simple task like mending a puncture (or at least being able to change a tube).

Re: Large mystery animal

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 25 April 2016 - 1:58pm
I'm not sure when the Surrey Puma was last reported (I used to live in Surrey, but I never saw it...). It may have changed its territory and be ranging further afield.

Re: Panniers for weekend tours

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 April 2016 - 1:56pm
MrsHJ wrote:I don't think I would categorise myself as experienced in such illustrious company but I've spent far too much time trying to extract bits of shredded bungee from various parts of the rear derallieur etc I find for regular trips my kids bags that are mounted with clips and then have an elastic retainer bit at the bottom can have the elastic bit shorn off to avoid the inevitable "mummy, my rear wheel won't turn".
that sounds familiar!

Re: Large mystery animal

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 25 April 2016 - 1:51pm
iviehoff wrote: ............ and since they can subsist fine on rabbits (my ordinary moggy routinely catches and eats rabbits) they can become feral.Not too sure about that as a plain fact.

Rabbits are routinely brought in by Nellie our cat. She left her original home one spring, never to return. We know her original owner BTW.
Nellie subsisted on rabbits all that spring/summer and into autumn, but by the time she appeared at our front door, she was in a pitiful state. We knew who she was because we knew where she was supposed to live, but she wanted to live with us instead so we took her in and fed her up. Her owner was happy that Nellie was happy.

That was three years ago. She's still catching rabbits - one or two a day sometimes - and often brings them in through the catflap and eats them under our bed during the night.

Trouble is, by mid autumn, the rabbits are beginning to go below ground and rarely venture out and Nellie's food supply dries up.
Therefore domestic cats can't subsist on rabbits or any small mammals for a whole year, they need "A Levels in Cat Flap Studies" or find alternative sources of food.

Big "cats" can catch bigger prey and can indeed subsist though the winter. There's enough roe deer for instance running through the woods and gardens round here to keep them quite well fed.

Re: Panniers for weekend tours

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 25 April 2016 - 1:41pm
mjr wrote:I'm currently having a similar dither. Do I use my cheap no-name small single panniers on a weekend tour so I can carry them more easily, use the axle-mounted bungees to attach bags to the rack top and risk them getting up to their old tricks (bent/broken hooks, trying to sag their corners into the wheel or bounce off, and so on), or do I take the bigger and sturdier Basil Mara double panniers and just deal with needing extra luggage straps to attach anything to the rack top and the relative awkwardness of carrying a double off the bike? What would more experienced tourists do?


I don't think I would categorise myself as experienced in such illustrious company but I've spent far too much time trying to extract bits of shredded bungee from various parts of the rear derallieur etc I find for regular trips my kids bags that are mounted with clips and then have an elastic retainer bit at the bottom can have the elastic bit shorn off to avoid the inevitable "mummy, my rear wheel won't turn".
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