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Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 18 May 2016 - 9:55pm
Just spent half an hour reporting potholes and surfaces being repair. Not easy on a mobile.

I hope some of you guys do this as well. I did it last year and a month later a few holes got filled. Just not the one I rode into. Still I've reported the same section and several other sections too. Let's hope they complete the job.

Seriously though, does anyone else report potholes? Worthwhile doing IMHO.

Re: Gas cannisters in Holland and Belgium

And here is one I prepared earlier based on my experience

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Re: Driverless cars in UK this year

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 18 May 2016 - 8:49pm
It is also incredibly offensive to pedestrians to assume that they are all sociopaths and need to be kept in order by the continuous threat of death.

When I walk through a public place I don't feel the need to carry a gun just in case another person steps into my path - why motorests feel the wortld will fall in if their vehicle ceases to be an offensive weapon is beyond me.

Re: How can a Brooks be the preferred touring saddle?

pwa wrote:quilkin wrote:I've been very happy with my Brooks (Swift) for 3 years (3 two-week tours plus a few day rides) and was planning on a trip again next month. But yesterday the tension pin snapped and it now has to go back to Brooks for repair (£25) - seems it's v. difficult to repair these without special tools. A bit of Googling suggests I'm by far not the only one to have this problem.
Anyway, glad it happened yesterday and not 1-2 days into my next trip. Not sure if I'll get the repaired unit back in time; if not it's back to the old cheap saddle

Hope you get it back in time. You might consider a Gilles Berthoud in preference to a Brooks next time, because they can be completely disassembled and rebuilt by yourself, using replacement bits if anything breaks.

I did get it back in time, but my decision to tour was delayed by cold wet weather in April so I left it until May, and have just returned. But the repaired saddle didn't feel 'right' and after four days I shortened my tour because it's just so uncomfortable and I'm getting saddle sore for the first time in years (last year the same saddle took me two weeks across France with zero problems). Seems like the repaired saddle is as stiff as a new one, and has lost all my 'moulding', and will need breaking in again with shorter day rides. On the other hand, I also recently hired bikes twice in Spain, with undefined (probably cheap) saddles and ridden each for a week without any discomfort. So I'm wondering about the point of the Brooks. It looks nice though.

Re: Gas cannisters in Holland and Belgium

bohrsatom wrote: but perhaps the puncture style ones are more widespread at campsites because a) they're cheaper for campsite owner to buy and b) they probably don't sell many so may have been hanging around for many years.

Or becaise they're the what their customers ask for? If you're a typical punter with a Camping Gaz stove you're probably not going to replace it until it breaks - which could mean decades.

There's a world of difference between what you might find in a town with B&Q-type shops and what you'll find in small villages. I've been on the road for 6 weeks and apart from stumbling upon Decathlon in Ajaccio I haven't seem anything that even remotely resembled a B&Q/ Mr Bricolage. I'm sure CV and EN-standard cartridges are readily available, but you may have to seek them out.

Re: iPhone GPS Navigation in Holland

MapOut is excellent. Thanks again.

Re: Gas cannisters in Holland and Belgium

I found the CV-style CampingGaz canisters readily available in 4 months of France/Germany/Switzerland/Austria/Czech/NL and Belgium. In general we found them in supermarkets/B&Q-like shops and only got the Primus threaded canisters when we came across a camping shop, outdoor store or decathlon (which are much more widespread in Central Europe than the UK).

Andymiller's experience is different, so as usual take all advice with a pinch of salt, but perhaps the puncture style ones are more widespread at campsites because a) they're cheaper for campsite owner to buy and b) they probably don't sell many so may have been hanging around for many years.

To be sure you can always use any type of canister then bring both converters but IME the CV type are easy to get hold of and an additional advantage is the converter takes up less space

Re: Gas cannisters in Holland and Belgium

andrew_s wrote:andymiller wrote:IME you don't actually see these very often - the cartridges I mainly see in campsite shops and supermarkets are the puncture type.
How long ago is your experience?
It's illegal to sell puncture-style stoves (on Euro H&S grounds), and has been for a number of years, so the canisters for them are gradually becoming less and less common.

I've seen them in campsite shops in recent weeks in both Corsica and Sardegna. In fact I've just popped into the shop of the campsite where I am now and they have three. None of the other sort. Excuse the crappy picture, but I rest my case.

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I'm in Italy and northern Europe may be different because firms like Primus have a stronger presence.

It may be illegal to put the stoves on the market but there are an awful lot of people who have them and Camping Gaz are still selling the canisters. And as I say IME they are the ones you are most likely to find outside the specialist shops.

psmiffy wrote:andymiller wrote: resealable camping gaz cartridges. IME you don't actually see these very often - the cartridges I mainly see in campsite shops and supermarkets are the puncture type. I think Edelrid do an adapter for these as well.

This surprises me - Belgium and Holland - in my experience I have found the blue CV cylinders are readily available - in all sizes - in most large supermarkets and in pretty much all home improvement stores - the primus type ive not seen outside good outdoors shops in the larger towns - Ive not been in a decathlon in Belgium or Holland but in most other countries where I have been in a decathlon they carried both types

I dont leave home without at least one eldrid adaptor (CV to primus)

https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/page/pic/?o=tS&pic_id=1192076&size=large

I wouldn't bother with the adaptor for puncture type cartridge - I did have one - arrived in Greece off the plane and surmised beforehand that I wouldnt be going anywhere in the first couple of days where I would be able to buy either primus or CV - it was a good plan - 30ks down the road I found some piercable cartridges in a tiny dirty garage - however, I carried the adaptor without using again it for another 10years before it fell apart

I did use the words in supermarkets and campsite shops. Yes in larger supermarkets, specialist shops etc you have a better chance.

Personally I would go to the trouble of finding a Decathlon or a Beaver and stocking up. But if you are going to carry an adapter I think the type for the puncture canisters could be more useful. Or carry one of the ultralight 'soda can' alcohol stoves - not ideal if you have four people to cook for, but you could get by with one until you found a shop that had canisters.

Re: Help with new mountain bike options

Cycling UK Forum - MTB - 18 May 2016 - 5:19pm
If you will ride mainly river paths and fire roads, a 29er should be your weapon of choice. As the tiding gets technical, I would agree a smaller wheel may be better.
In terms of your choices, I always go for the best frame, forks and wheels combination. The drivetrain will wear and need replacing quickly. In reality anything from Deore or X9 upwards is good enough to start with.


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Re: Driverless cars in UK this year

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 18 May 2016 - 5:17pm
Re playing chicken with driverless vehicles. Technology isn't infallible.
A number of years ago, a bloke invented a tablesaw that detected a human hand and stopped spinning before the users hand was chopped off. This doesn't mean you go sticking your fingers in to see if it works...your fingers won't magically grow back if it doesn't. A bit like playing chicken with a robot car that can't possibly go wrong. If it does, it can carry on. Unlike a dead person.

Re: Gas cannisters in Holland and Belgium

andymiller wrote:IME you don't actually see these very often - the cartridges I mainly see in campsite shops and supermarkets are the puncture type.
How long ago is your experience?
It's illegal to sell puncture-style stoves (on Euro H&S grounds), and has been for a number of years, so the canisters for them are gradually becoming less and less common.

Re: Gas cannisters in Holland and Belgium

andymiller wrote: resealable camping gaz cartridges. IME you don't actually see these very often - the cartridges I mainly see in campsite shops and supermarkets are the puncture type. I think Edelrid do an adapter for these as well.

This surprises me - Belgium and Holland - in my experience I have found the blue CV cylinders are readily available - in all sizes - in most large supermarkets and in pretty much all home improvement stores - the primus type ive not seen outside good outdoors shops in the larger towns - Ive not been in a decathlon in Belgium or Holland but in most other countries where I have been in a decathlon they carried both types

I dont leave home without at least one eldrid adaptor (CV to primus)

https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/page/pic/?o=tS&pic_id=1192076&size=large

I wouldn't bother with the adaptor for puncture type cartridge - I did have one - arrived in Greece off the plane and surmised beforehand that I wouldnt be going anywhere in the first couple of days where I would be able to buy either primus or CV - it was a good plan - 30ks down the road I found some piercable cartridges in a tiny dirty garage - however, I carried the adaptor without using again it for another 10years before it fell apart

Re: Cyclist killed in three-rider collision in Lancashire

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 18 May 2016 - 3:08pm
A full copy of this topic can be found in the Plastic Hat section.

Re: New Route Planner

Slightly random semi-related question: does anyone know how to find the total length of cycle tracks in the UK from OSM?

Re: Cyclist killed in three-rider collision in Lancashire

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 18 May 2016 - 1:59pm
Here is a graph of the effects of a helmet compulsion law in New Zealand.
Numbers cycling declined from about 250,000 to less than 150,000. At the same time the number of injuries per 100,000 cyclists increased from about 500 to about 900.

https://roaddangerreductionforum.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/newzealandhelmetsv6.jpg

It is discussed on this website.

https://rdrf.org.uk/2013/12/17/the-effects-of-new-zealands-cycle-helmet-law/

Re: New Route Planner

I'm not sure about the cycling GPSs, but IIRC the outdoor models (etrex etc.) have a setting for adjusting the amount of pre-warning under the bizarre heading of "off road transitions" in the routing menu.

Re: Cyclist killed in three-rider collision in Lancashire

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 18 May 2016 - 1:40pm
Is this really the place for a helmet debate? We normally respect fatalities by not speculating on causes in case friends and relatives see the thread

Thanks geocycle, you're right. I won't post any more here and I suggest a mod moves the posts from the first question on helmets to the end to the helmets sub forum.

Re: Cyclist killed in three-rider collision in Lancashire

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 18 May 2016 - 1:39pm
geocycle wrote:Is this really the place for a helmet debate? We normally respect fatalities by not speculating on causes in case friends and relatives see the thread.

You're right. However this case jumps out as one where the helmet is significant - there is no car involved, head injuries were reported and no helmet was worn. I take it that we keep it theoretical but it's very human to be curious in this case - I don't think anyone isn't moved by what has happened. I'm sure no blame is being apportioned (or at least not meant).

Re: Cyclist killed in three-rider collision in Lancashire

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 18 May 2016 - 1:33pm
sapperadam wrote:I will take my industry wording for this. Is it "reasonably practicable" for a cyclist to wear a helmet? … It is also why I don't understand why we always make comparisons to motorists and pedestrians wearing helmets. it is NOT "reasonably practical" for them to do so. Cars have other mechanisms to protect occupants in a crash as do pedestrians to an extent (rules of the road etc, but this does need both sides to follow them and that's a different point).

Having additional protection doesn't lessen the fact that it is "resonably practicable". Around half of *all* survived traumatic brain injuries (TBIs) occur inside motor vehicles, so even though the head injury rate per mile or (less dramatically) per hour is lower than that for cycling, if helmets were effective then the absolute benefit would be many times greater. As it happens I have a driving helmet sitting here on my desk; there's no practical reason I couldn't wear it in my car (nor my cycling helmet).

Similar logic applies for pedestrians: figures for TBIs are hard to come by but per-mile fatality rates in road collisions are nearly 20% higher than for cycling and are around 3.5 times greater in absolute terms. The incident rate of head injuries as a subset of all serious injury casualties in road collisions for all three modes of transport are almost identical, so one can infer with reasonable confidence that, again, the overall benefit of walking helmets would be several times that for cycling. Again, it's hardly less practicable: you even see people walking around wearing them after they've got off their bike.

And I'm not sure how you can use "rules of the road" to argue as a reason to eschew helmets when walking or travelling by car but not for cycling.

sapperadam wrote:One point to note though, if he had been wearing a helmet and he survived the crash with little more than some cuts and brusies, would we have been discussing this and extolling the merits of helmets? I think not, there would have been nothing to report on.
climo wrote:You only hear of the bad accidents and not of the 'good' ones where helmets were worn. People just pick themselves up and carry on.

I'm afraid that's simply not true. The media is rife with stories of people who've been Definitely Saved by helmets. (Not to mention other things.)

climo wrote:I was in rehab with a doctor who had a head injury from skiing. He had no helmet and hit a tree. After 5 years private top class neuro rehab he could stand and, held by 2 physios, take 3-5 steps. Humbling to watch believe me. Anecdotal I know but proof for most people.

And have you heard of Michael Shumacher? Another anecdote, but one which—since they constitute proof for you—is "proof" that it's no more than a lottery.

Closer to home, you could look at the case of Daniel Squire and that of Kevin and Caroline MacDivitt. All struck squarely from behind at very similar points of very similar vans being driven at very similar speeds. If we take these two cases, helmets correlate with death and bare heads correlate with survival.

What do these anecdotes prove? Nothing. They're anecdotes.

Re: Cyclist killed in three-rider collision in Lancashire

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 18 May 2016 - 1:33pm
Is this really the place for a helmet debate? We normally respect fatalities by not speculating on causes in case friends and relatives see the thread.
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