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Re: Barbed Wire Trap set on trail in Kent

Cycling UK Forum - MTB - 4 April 2016 - 9:46am
I don't know how you can rule it out as terrorism so definitely. There are 109 definitions of terrorism from national and international organizations. Different parts of the UN can't even agree a definition.

Looking into it there are a number of sources of definitions that allow for terrorism too include actions that put the public or sections of the public in a state of fear. Even the 2000 terrorism act has something similar in a subsection. If you're riding a trail, at an enjoyable speed, with the knowledge of past incidents of barbed wire across the trail I'm sure that has some effect on you and I'm sure if you encountered it you'd get hurt. That very incident would create fear among the cyclists that use that trail.

Personally I think it is a very fine line in deciding whether it is terrorism. Personal opinion perhaps. You cannot just rule it out based on your personal definition or a basic, general definition that is more political than honest IMHO. Definitions of terrorism is a highly political thing in modern world. The term is highly emotive and has accordingly been exploited for political or ideological gain by governments. The whole idea it must be political at its core is a political construct that benefits the state.

Ho hum! All I can say is you'll never get me using a trail known to have anonymous actors carrying out planned traps aimed at fellow humans. Despicable acts and to be condemned no matter what term you use.

Re: Barbed Wire Trap set on trail in Kent

Cycling UK Forum - MTB - 4 April 2016 - 9:29am
Lance Dopestrong wrote:Simply instilling terror in someone is not terrorism.
Instilling terror,terrorising is terrorism.
If you want to argue over the reasons and academic meaning of the word terrorism,play away.
I won't give you an argument,but I'll still say stringing barbed wire across a trail is an attempt at terrorising others which amounts to terrorism in my book.
YVMV.

Re: Barbed Wire Trap set on trail in Kent

Cycling UK Forum - MTB - 4 April 2016 - 9:29am
Lance Dopestrong wrote:Simply instilling terror in someone is not terrorism.
Instilling terror,terrorising is terrorism.
If you want to argue over the reasons and academic meaning of the word terrorism,play away.
I won't give you an argument,but I'll still say stringing barbed wire across a trail is an attempt at terrorising others which amounts to terrorism in my book.
YVMV.

Re: Barbed Wire Trap set on trail in Kent

Cycling UK Forum - MTB - 4 April 2016 - 9:08am
Simply instilling terror in someone is not terrorism.

Re: Cycling in groups

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 4 April 2016 - 9:08am
It strikes me that unless the group is well matched in terms of fitness, trying to stay in a group will be impossible.
CTC and other groups on the road are regulars in group discipline.
I doubt if that is your case.
People unused to long distances and sustained effort will split up and the stragglers will loose heart.
Try holding back the fitter ones and it will lead to impatience and frustration.
Best of luck with that!

Re: Dogs on cycle paths - how many where you live?

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 4 April 2016 - 8:58am
We have a lot of Canal Tow Path and Former Railways where I live.
Inevitably there will be walkers with children and dogs.
I think we need to take a view on a situation that was never going to be ideal.
You have the alternative of cycling on the road.
You need to slow right down and you must have a bell.
You are never going to alter the situation so pragmatism and tolerance are the only way forward.
We can all trot out examples of near misses, belligerent dog owners etc etc ad nauseam, but it will never change the facts.
Walkers , Children and indeed Dogs need space too.

Dogs on cycle paths - how many where you live?

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 4 April 2016 - 6:54am
recumbentpanda wrote:Heltor Chasca wrote:I was in the 2 Tunnels near Bath yesterday. Scores of families out on their bikes without lights.

BUT there was also a dog walker with his terrier off the lead AND the damn thing had no lights either. [emoji849]

I really don't see the need for lights in the two tunnels - the installed lighting is perfectly adequate, and bright cycle lights just dazzle and annoy. If you need other cyclists (or dogs!) to have lights in there, then my feeling is you are going too fast anyway.

I agree you don't need to fly through like some of the roadies. However I completely disagree on lights. Cyclists take enough cop for supposedly not being considerate to other shared path users. Even at 10 mph, 2 bikes smashing into each other is going to hurt. Some of the ramblers going through are elderly and don't need to be injured.

Be sensible, considerate and light up. How difficult can it be?

EDIT: FWIW I followed a recumbent, south through the tunnels on Saturday who was part of a group of leisure cyclists. The way was clear and it was doing 15-20 mph easily. It was a fast machine. Was that you?

EDIT 2: I almost always get thanked by walkers for pinging my bell. I think bells are polite and choose to fit them on all our bikes. I have also adjusted my headlamp so no walker or cyclist gets dazzled. I can't adjust it any further to accommodate the riding position on a bent. Impossible on most bikes to do and something you laid back riders will have to put up with should we cross paths in the dark. Sorry.

Re: Dogs on cycle paths - how many where you live?

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 3 April 2016 - 11:27pm
Heltor Chasca wrote:I was in the 2 Tunnels near Bath yesterday. Scores of families out on their bikes without lights.

BUT there was also a dog walker with his terrier off the lead AND the damn thing had no lights either. [emoji849]

I really don't see the need for lights in the two tunnels - the installed lighting is perfectly adequate, and bright cycle lights just dazzle and annoy. If you need other cyclists (or dogs!) to have lights in there, then my feeling is you are going too fast anyway.

Re: Hand-Built Wheels - Expectations

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 3 April 2016 - 11:07pm
irc wrote:Thanks for the update. I'm going to be buying a new rear wheel soon. So I'll consider using Hewitt. Either them or Spa.

He's a long way from you down on the South coast but my recommendation for hand built wheels is Harry Rowland. He knows what he's doing.

Re: Critiques of routes for touring

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 3 April 2016 - 9:18pm
I think it's too early for people to give me Gloucester --> Leicester advice as my route is changing too much.

However, here are the routes I have so far:

Gloucester to Stratford-Upon-Avon via the Cotswolds: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Glouc ... .19173!3e1 This has one massive hill up to Cleeve Hill in the Cotswolds, but is otherwise reasonably flat. I've never been to the Cotswolds. This is different from my previous route, and goes nowhere near Tewkesbury.

Here's an 'other side of the Severn' route inspired by BMLBuzz's advice. It was quite hard to avoid A-roads, and there are some bits that are basically diversions to avoid them. Refinement is necessary. I don't know which of these two routes will be the one I do. There does seem to be more hills on this route. It's also ten miles longer. This may not be a bad thing as originally the Gloucester trip was going to be the first time I did 100 miles in one day, but the trip got shorter. This route would make it longer again.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Glouc ... .19173!3e1 EDIT: This isn't that hilly. I just noticed the small range between the highest and lowest elevation reached on this route.

From Stratford-Upon-Avon to Leicester, I was thinking of using the Fosse way for easy navigation. There is a big hill, Friz Hill, between S-U-A and the Fosse Way. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Strat ... 484838!3e1

I wouldn't mind hearing bits of information about these areas. But I'm concerned that if people give me specific advice about a route that I'm still working on (e.g. I've sent emails to organisations and tourist information centres asking questions) then there is a risk that the advice might not get used. I don't want to waste anyone's time.

Re: Which bit of the North Coast 500 in 5-7 Days?

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 3 April 2016 - 9:04pm
I'm doing it in July. Just a word of warning some parts are remote, accommodation is few and far between and some are already booked.

I've found Google maps to be the best place to find accommodation

Re: Dogs on cycle paths - how many where you live?

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 3 April 2016 - 8:43pm
greyingbeard wrote:I like playful dogs, even the big ones. Ive yet to be so hassled by one that I've had to take control of it and march it back to its owner. Looking forward to it, tbh, provided I dont get bitten, that would not make a good day out.

I love them, others dont. I do see their point of view. Those who dont like them often get anxious and afraid, then situations get confrontational which is unpleasant for all involved. Nothing worse than an anxious over-reactive owner who gets stroppy and ups the ante, transmits her fear straight down the lead etc. Then they start the blaming nonsense. IMHO a lot of owners dont ubderstand how their pets tiny mind works, join in, fught their childrens squabbles etc. There are very few overtly aggressive dogs, but many that will react to their owners feelings.

Best way to behave is to calm oneself down, deep slow breaths as needed, then talk sensibly to people. Easier said than achieved.
Of course, those with a strong dislike of dogs tend to avoid the doggy areas. A mile further on is almost always dog-free.

My dog has only ever shown interest in one person on a bike, and knocked him off - me.
Who can I blame, shout at, and denounce to the authorities ?
Of course, the council, its always their fault, "they should do something about it". Nice soft grass verges to land on please.

When you think that as cyclists we have our lives at risk sharing the road with 1 tonne vehicles (or more) so we have the option to use a shared path. In this case we get bitten, chased, barked at or sometimes run over their defecation. Just today I ran over a dog sh!t and while i was at work a dog p!ssed against our work sign. No apology from the owner.

To be honest dogs are a big problem in many ways, not just while cycling. There are over 9 million of them in the UK.

Over 650 people have to go to A&E every day in England alone due to dog bites. some of these bites cause life changin consequences. All recreational grounds are infected with toxocariasis due to dogs feaces.

Why we got rid of dog licencing i don't know.

Re: Barbed Wire Trap set on trail in Kent

Cycling UK Forum - MTB - 3 April 2016 - 8:27pm
Lance Dopestrong wrote:reohn2 wrote:Taken to it's logical conclusion it is terrorism

It's then use of unlawful force to achieve a political objective? How does that work?

Depending on the motive it's anything from being a pecker through to attempted murder, but I can't quite see the link with terrorism.

It's an attempt at maiming or murder which is terrorising other users of the path.
Whether that's for political reasons or out of sheer madness is anyone's guess,I dare say those that did it weren't available for comment or prepared to issue a press release

Re: Which bit of the North Coast 500 in 5-7 Days?

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 3 April 2016 - 8:27pm
I just spent a week based in (Fasag) Torridin. Lots of incredible scenery and routes including Isle of Skye, Applecros and of course the Beallach - not for the faint hearted! Lots of very nice and down to earth eateries

Re: Edinburgh hostel - secure bike storage

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 3 April 2016 - 8:21pm
Hope you got accommodation sorted. FYI Edinburgh Waverley station is very central and has bike racks. Pretty safe in there.

Re: My best route so far

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 3 April 2016 - 8:06pm
Bleedin' gadgets.

And a ride ain't no fun unless you get lost.

Re: A positive thread

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 3 April 2016 - 7:58pm
Mrs gaz and I took a little pootle out this afternoon to a couple of the local National Trust places .

Lots of other people out riding in the sunshine too.

Re: new(ish) Ortliebs

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 3 April 2016 - 7:48pm
Just put some new inserts into my old style ones (i had them hanging around) and sure enough one of the inserts in particular stays on the rack whenever I pull up on the pannier. Suppose I should be grateful that as yet it is not dropping on the floor. Still a pain picking it off the rack and reinserting it every time.

Still bemused by how a german company could design a critical insert which pushes up into a holder which is itself pulled up.

Re: Would you rather..

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 3 April 2016 - 5:01pm
I don't really like headwinds but it also depends on how strong the wind is, if the sun is out, how far you have to go, what the scenery is like, who you are with, etc, etc.

Riding in a tailwind is usually fun regardless of the other weather conditions. Being blown downwind in a gale in the rain, splashing through puddles can be brilliant.

Saying that, we just rode up N Uist into the wind then ended up riding down Skye into the wind too as it had changed direction. It was still a great ride though.
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