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Re: Lowest gear for touring including load-pulling

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 5 April 2016 - 3:03pm
Sweep wrote:NATURAL ANKLING wrote:But who would really need more than 42 x 11 on a 700 x 35, you wont keep it up long even with no load so the top gears over 100 " are a bit academic, 53 x 11 is for he-men

I have 11-34 and 22-32-42 on a very very well used 8-speed bike - used for load lugging/day rides/around town.

Touring will often be on 37/38 tyres, zapping around town 28mm.

Have you never felt the need for a 44T big ring?

I have been considering it.

I changed from a Deore 22/34/44 to a Spa cycles 24/36/46 last year and have done Dunkirk to Perpignan and a tour of South Island since. I'm on 700 rims with 35mm tyres and 11-34 cassette and I use both extremes on a daily basis. The 22 or 24 I find essential on long, steep climbs and would struggle with anything higher (I struggle anyhow!) and use the highest gears when I pick up a tail wind or on descents. I find it spins out at about 28mph and there were a couple of times on both tours where I swallowed up miles at that sort of speed due to tail winds. Felt so sorry for the poor people coming the other way....

Glazebrook Trail

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 5 April 2016 - 11:36am
Does anyone (reohn2 perhaps???) know if this is entirely cyclable? Bikehike's os map shows the rights of way to be no issue, just wondering at the state of the surface really.
I'm thinking Dunham Grove across the East Lancs and onto Holcroft Lane via Little Woolden Hall Farm nr the M62.
I'm really sick of main roads now and after as much a non road route to Warbuton Bridge as I can find.

Re: cyclingabout

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 5 April 2016 - 9:37am
I was not aware of this website, so thanks. US based so slanted towards their views by the looks of it, but all good. Will keep an eye on it.

Re: Dogs on cycle paths - how many where you live?

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 5 April 2016 - 9:06am
In Saturday's "Times" there was a heart warming story in the Doggy Births and Deaths section about a pooch that had suffered severe internal injuries due to a collision with a cyclist.
The dog was restored to health (hurrah) by extensive veterinary surgery .
The article didn't mention how the cyclist came out of the incident.

cyclingabout

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 5 April 2016 - 8:23am
andymiller wrote:Tell us a bit about it?

A sentence or two, or some copied and pasted text might motivate more people to click the link.

Andy just click on it. Not that tricky is it? I subscribed to cycling about's YouTube channel a few months back. It's a bit cheesy, but there are some good tips and ideas. You never know you may enjoy it [emoji6]

EDIT: Thank you PB. A refreshing thread. [emoji106]

Re: Cycling in groups

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 5 April 2016 - 8:06am
Depends on the size and purpose of the group - taking 14 sets of tyre levers isn't necessary on a group expedition...

Re: Cycling in groups

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 5 April 2016 - 7:58am
Grandad wrote:As far as possible we are trying to insist people have spare innertubes and a serviceable repair kit.

My inclination would be to say that anyone not taking this basic precaution should be abandoned if they get a puncture

It is one thing to insist people have the correct kit. We found it is quite another for them to be able to successfully use it when they are cold, wet and tired, in the rain, with an audience that wants to get moving, repeatedly....

Re: cyclingabout

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 5 April 2016 - 7:24am
Tell us a bit about it?

A sentence or two, or some copied and pasted text might motivate more people to click the link.

Re: bikebacking

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 5 April 2016 - 5:56am
thanks for your reply. You're probably right, carrying a waterproof jacket will be a good idea.

@iviehoff, I'm going to Marche but not along the coast, I'm gonna pass Urbino, Fabriano and Ascoli Piceno.

Re: Cycling in groups

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 4 April 2016 - 11:45pm
As far as possible we are trying to insist people have spare innertubes and a serviceable repair kit.

My inclination would be to say that anyone not taking this basic precaution should be abandoned if they get a puncture

Re: Cycling in groups

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 4 April 2016 - 11:21pm
arnsider wrote:It strikes me that unless the group is well matched in terms of fitness, trying to stay in a group will be impossible.
CTC and other groups on the road are regulars in group discipline.
I doubt if that is your case.
People unused to long distances and sustained effort will split up and the stragglers will loose heart.
Try holding back the fitter ones and it will lead to impatience and frustration.
Best of luck with that!


I am glad to read this last post and want to share my experience as a novice rather than expert. Last year I participated in a group charity ride to Paris with 18 riders of a range of ability, from someone who runs a competitive team to someone who only learned to ride a few months before. I think you might find our experience thought provoking.

We were unable to keep to any discipline about how we organise ourselves on the road. Fitness. riding preferences, willingness to lead and trust to follow varied hugely and meant it was inpractical to enforce "rules."

A working practice of slipstreaming and rotating the lead in small sub groups gradually emerged as we slowly learned each other's riding styles and fitness levels. As we got used to each other and established practice our pace picked up markedly. The first day was far longer than planned and the average on day three was much quicker.

Navigation and communication between the croup members was a big issue. Without knowing if it will work this year I have suggested all riders have a handle bar mounted mobile phone case (big enough to hold phone and backup battery pack )with a standard route map loaded on their phone. Over three days most of us struggled to keep our phones alive during the day. The Garmin equipped riders using different models kept getting DIFFERENT routes between the stops which created confusion and wasted time and effort.

We had several instances of subgroups getting lost. We want everyone to have everyone else's phone numbers this year. If you have a support crew make sure they are very familiar with the satelite Navigation system in the support vehicle - particularly if you are hiring it! Peoples aptitude for reading maps and following directions varies considerably.

We had 9 punctures and our support vehicle got caught up rescuing the stranded. On the second and third day people dropped out for a variety of reasons. Keep in mind it takes an experienced and properly equipped person to successfully fix a puncture by the road side in a rain shower, particularly with the pressure of knowing you are keeping others waiting. One guy had three punctures. As far as possible we are trying to insist people have spare innertubes and a serviceable repair kit.

Sorry if some of this is irrelevant but I hope it saves you some struggles.

Re: Tacks on the cycle path in Swansea

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 4 April 2016 - 11:19pm
theclaud wrote:
Were you one of the tandemists repairing between Blackpill and the university?

They are at it again. I was nailed (well... pinned) near West Cross yesterday. http://www.southwales-eveningpost.co.uk/Swansea-cycle-path-drawing-pin-menace-widened-net/story-29032901-detail/story.html

Not me. I was riding a Surly on my way to work. Annoying they are at it again.... Sorry to hear they got you.

Re: Holiday in France St malo La Rochelle

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 4 April 2016 - 10:22pm
If you want a good competitively priced meal at the end of your trip we enjoyed Les 4 Sergents. Sensible prices as a step back from the front and excellent seafood.

solar chargers for gps

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 4 April 2016 - 10:10pm
I have been considering a gps unit of some kind for an upcoming trip, normally maps do me fine, but im not a bit of a time limit and i figure it will make things easier.
Anyway, seeing as there is limited battery life, and i would rather be wild camping. I will not be able to charge this up every night.

Does anyone have any experience using a gps with solar chargers? if so, do they work alright? or am i wasting my time?

Dogs on cycle paths - how many where you live?

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 4 April 2016 - 8:29pm
arnsider wrote:Well carry on with your heads up your backsides!
It really beggars belief the state of mind of some people that rant on about dogs and ped's.
I'm beyond all this strife.
Roads and cycle tracks are not places where Automatons prevail.
Thank God!!!

Based on this and your earlier post: Yes it can change! If we don't voice our disgruntlement at a less than ideal scenario, nothing will change. Being polite and having a stiff upper lip and a 'just deal with it' attitude will change nowt.

Don't forget the Dutch had a similar infrastructure to ours. Now look at the NL. It is nearly ideal for cycles and peds. I assume things aren't bad for the dogs either. I didn't take mine so I can't comment.

I'm a long term dog owner, cyclist and walker. So there is no way I am going to stop campaigning in any way I can for a better infrastructure for all of us. Campaigning or ranting. Call it what you like....b

Re: Dogs on cycle paths - how many where you live?

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 4 April 2016 - 6:58pm
Well carry on with your heads up your backsides!
It really beggars belief the state of mind of some people that rant on about dogs and ped's.
I'm beyond all this strife.
Roads and cycle tracks are not places where Automatons prevail.
Thank God!!!

Re: Holiday in France St malo La Rochelle

Cycling UK Forum - Touring & Expedition - 4 April 2016 - 6:55pm
On the LR day(s), one day can be spent on a leisurely cycle around the Ile de Ré - it's excellent, laid back, refreshing.

Nice beaches on the south side if that's your thing. Lots of other things to see and do - the lighthouse at the East end, pretty villages and loads of nice restaurants. A fair amount of traffic, but cycle paths are everywhere.

Re: Dogs on cycle paths - how many where you live?

Cycling UK Forum - On the road - 4 April 2016 - 6:18pm
Bicycler wrote:mjr wrote:Most dogs are off the lead but then why shouldn't they be? It is, after all, a well known dog walking area.
Because it's a highway and http://highwaycode.info/rule/56 says they should be kept on a short lead.
I take it that you wear a helmet and hi-vis as the HC says you should?
Hey, I only said it was a reason they should, not that they must, nor that it was a great reason

More seriously, I agree with you that cycle facilities ought to be useable at cycle speeds. The problem is that a lot of places we are allowed to cycle aren't really 'cycle paths' per se. They are existing pedestrian routes or public spaces which cyclists have (often begrudgingly) been permitted to use. We're probably more likely to get cycling banned from parks and towpaths than get other users to facilitate our cycling at whatever speeds we might be capable of cycling.
If park routes and towpaths aren't upgraded soon to be useful cycling routes, then it might be better that cycling is banned from them, or at least restricted in some way. That would make it clear that there still needs to be a decent cycle route network developed.

As for "existing pedestrian routes" - wasn't everything? Even the A5 Watling Street was originally for walking Romans...

I know I'm spoiled in that some of our local cycle tracks were built/rebuilt as cycle tracks, but even there, some ignorant dog owners still meander about and let their pets be dangers to themselves and others, so I don't think this has much to do with quality of the track. It's more of a problem of a few dog owners who seem to act as if everyone should love their slobbering/snarling/defecating beasts as much as they do, rather than keep them out of our way and we'll do our best to keep out of theirs.
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