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Agressive close pass Bath area

15 May 2016 - 4:55pm
As there are one or two locals here I thought it meet to post this. Was travelling along Monkton Combe village high street in a westbound direction at about 5pm this afternoon (Sunday May 15). No other vehicles or cycles in sight. I became aware of engine noise to the rear, glanced in my mirror to see a dark blue saloon car approaching rapidly from behind. Before I could react, the vehicle passed at speed with the passenger's left arm fully extended out of the window, either to steal my admittedly very cool hat, or to make a crude gesture. As the street bends and obscured my line of sight, I did not have time to note make or registration other than that the final letters were WPU.

Not really what you'd expect in the urban badlands of Monkton Combe (Harry Potter would find it very nostalgic) but that's cars for you I suppose, they go places.

I hope this was just a one off, but in case it's a serial offender I am recording it here.

Re: Janet Street Porter

15 May 2016 - 3:13pm
Bicycler wrote:Of course there are inconsiderate cyclists. Where did either of us imply otherwise? For that matter there are inconsiderate pedestrians. Inconsiderate cyclists and the infinitely greater danger of motor vehicles haven't yet made walking the streets anywhere near as unfeasible to the average person as cycling.

Covered in the Wiki article:

Swiss psychiatrist Carl Jung considered indeed that "there must be some people who behave in the wrong way; they act as scapegoats and objects of interest for the normal ones

Re: Janet Street Porter

15 May 2016 - 2:38pm
reohn2 wrote:Bicycler wrote:ANTONISH wrote:IMO pedestrians often get the worse of things- being herded to inconvenient crossings and always having to be aware that the pavement may not always be exclusively used by pedestrians.
Nah, I don't buy that. Pedestrians are also victims of the tyranny of the motocracy but cyclists have it worse...
Absolutely spot on!
And it's a disgrace that it continues as it does,with cycling organisations(no names mentioned)folding meekly to the motoring bullies.
ANTONISH wrote:And there are no cycling bullies riding through red lights on pedestrian crossings and riding too fast on shared use paths or cycling on dedicated pedestrian paths ?
Of course there are inconsiderate cyclists. Where did either of us imply otherwise? For that matter there are inconsiderate pedestrians. Inconsiderate cyclists and the infinitely greater danger of motor vehicles haven't yet made walking the streets anywhere near as unfeasible to the average person as cycling.

Re: Before Pulling In For Car - Indicate or Not ?

15 May 2016 - 11:26am
Mainly I indicate before a left hand turn when being followed by a fellow cyclist. I will do the same with a car on a narrow road, mainly as a warning that I could be slowing. On single track roads, I will tend to pull in and stop without signalling to allow a following vehicle to pass. Sometimes I will wave a hesitant motorist to overtake when I can see the road ahead is clear, and I feel there is sufficient room for them to do so safely.

Re: Commute to train then walk other end:rucksack/panniers-

15 May 2016 - 8:44am
Update is that I'm sticking with the Osprey Momentum 30. It's certainly big enough with some good organisation. It feels so much better than my old rucksack (not huge surprise). I'm using the laptop area to carry my work shirt and trousers, keeps them nice and flat. The other areas are big enough for lunch boxes, 2 phones, pens, wet wipes, work,ID, passes, half a dozen eggs ( I take them in for mates at work, from my hens), extra bike kit ( leggings, spare tubes,mini pump, tools etc) and the lid lock is good. I'm still getting used to the pockets, where's best to keep everything.

I used the rain cover last week, a mile into the ride it tipped down , shoes filled up, bag and contents stayed dry.

My only gripe would be that for a bag of this price and pedigree, Opsrey couldn't supply "keepers" to keep the straps tidy, unbelievable. So I resort to elastic bands to stop the flapping.

Nice bag for on and off the bike. The Deuter trans Alpin seems to be in a similar bracket and well reviewed.

Re: Before Pulling In For Car - Indicate or Not ?

15 May 2016 - 7:54am
I'm with Vorpal regarding simply looking back. I find that cars are generally uncomfortable trying to overtake unless they know you've seen them. So I block the road and ignore them until getting to a passing place, then move to the side while glancing over my shoulder. Almost all drivers take this as an invitation to come past - many wave in thanks despite me not having explicitly invited the overtake. It also has the advantage (especially on step climbs) that you can keep both hands on the bars.

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Re: Janet Street Porter

15 May 2016 - 6:53am
Thanks for that! Read a lot of that Wiki link, now I'm really depressed, if half of it is true, we really have got no chance of changing attitudes!!

Re: or in the air - speed trap gets its man?

15 May 2016 - 6:50am
There is an urban legend about a police speed trap unit that picked up something doing over 300mph - that was the reading on the display before the machine stopped working. A couple of seconds later a Tornado jet goes screaming overhead. The police complain to the RAF about their now defunct speed trap. The RAF apologised saying the plane in question had been flying a low level warfare exercise and had detected a 'ground based radar threat' which it neutralised with electronic counter measures. Had the plane been flying a 'weapons hot' exercise it would have dispatched a missile as well.

Re: Janet Street Porter

15 May 2016 - 1:45am
I was quite surprised to find this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scapegoating

AFAICS It covers all Street-Porter's criticisms and concerns and explains why she and others hold what are, after all, quite peculiar views. The negative attention currently given to cycling and the obsession about helmets is really rich ground for some psychological research but I think Wikipedia has got it broadly covered. I like the idea that drivers blame cyclists for the congestion caused by, well, drivers and that drivers feel that cyclists should wear helmets to protect them from the dangers created by, well, drivers. The chair of the discussion was clearly unable to see the irony of it all, if not the hilarity.

Re: or in the air - speed trap gets its man?

14 May 2016 - 10:57pm
gaz wrote:mercalia wrote:Police snap parrot going at 1.5 times speed limit
Probably not a Norwegian Blue. Not the fastest of birds your Norwegian Blue .

Though beautiful plumage,even when reclining

Re: or in the air - speed trap gets its man?

14 May 2016 - 10:33pm
mercalia wrote:Police snap parrot going at 1.5 times speed limit
Probably not a Norwegian Blue. Not the fastest of birds your Norwegian Blue .

Re: Cycling opportunity Keswick -Kendal

14 May 2016 - 10:22pm
jgurney wrote:Tangled Metal wrote:the road has been opened.

An e-mail headed 'Cumbria is Open!' from Independent Hostels Guide turned out to be about this - no-one would gather from reading it that cyclists and bus travelers have in fact been passing that way for months.
The 'Cumbria is Open' logo has been in use since December to inform people who may have been looking to go to the area over the festive period but would be put off thinking the whole area was no go due to the floods.

Re: Janet Street Porter

14 May 2016 - 9:08pm
ANTONISH wrote:And there are no cycling bullies riding through red lights on pedestrian crossings and riding too fast on shared use paths or cycling on dedicated pedestrian paths ?

But of course,and they need taking to task for it.
But one things for sure,they don't do anywhere near the damage to life and limb as the motorists who flout the law do,and get away with it daily.If not with the approval of the authorities then certainly the lack of adequate policing and penalties for such offenders.

Re: Sally Shalloe

14 May 2016 - 8:21pm
So manslaughter carries a two year tariff, utterly ridiculous. We need to remove the ridiculous system that massively reduces sentences on the basis that soneone is using a motorvehicle as their choice of weapon.
Also people whom injure others whilst operating a vehicle should have tracking devices installed for the first two years afterwards.

Re: Close passes BY cyclists

14 May 2016 - 8:04pm
pwa wrote:A prat is a prat whether he's on a bike, driving a car or whatever. Content yourself with the sure and certain knowledge that his next close encounter with the tarmac can only be a few miles away.
+1

Re: Janet Street Porter

14 May 2016 - 5:41pm
reohn2 wrote:Bicycler wrote:ANTONISH wrote:IMO pedestrians often get the worse of things- being herded to inconvenient crossings and always having to be aware that the pavement may not always be exclusively used by pedestrians.
Nah, I don't buy that. Pedestrians are also victims of the tyranny of the motocracy but cyclists have it worse. Pedestrians mostly have pavements to their own exclusive use. Cyclists virtually never have their own exclusive space. Cycle tracks have the same kind of rubbish crossings that pedestrians have. I am confident that I could walk any road in the country that I am legally permitted to if I so wished, yet there are a good number I could not cycle on because of the danger. We don't have adults who feel unable to walk across town because of the perceived danger of doing so, yet huge proportions of the population feel unable to make ever simple journeys by cycle because of fear of being injured or killed. Pedestrians may use all of the rights of way network, any newly constructed cycle paths and all public space. Cyclists may use only a small proportion of the rights of way network and shared use cycle facilities are often poorly suited to their needs.

Absolutely spot on!
And it's a disgrace that it continues as it does,with cycling organisations(no names mentioned)folding meekly to the motoring bullies.

And there are no cycling bullies riding through red lights on pedestrian crossings and riding too fast on shared use paths or cycling on dedicated pedestrian paths ?

Re: Close passes BY cyclists

14 May 2016 - 3:26pm
sapperadam wrote:I was actually thinking about posting something along these exact lines.

I've been walking to work recently - living about ten minutes walk door to door from the office at the moment - and four times in the past three days I have been nearly hit by someone on a bike. Twice was the same person and they have received a gobful from me. This all happened on the same stretch of footpath which has been narrowed considerably because of building works. The problem is though that each of these persons would likely not be in the same camp as those likely to be on here. They are almost exclusively riding cheap mountain bikes, but the non-cycling community would put them in the same camp.

This mornings's idiot looked right at me as he rode past me (which is when he got a mouthful) but totally ignored me otherwise - he was shortly followed by a unicyclist!! Who was on the road but then jumped on the path to avoid the traffic lights!!

I cannot disagree re the folks on cheap "mountain bikes."

Coming out of the depot on Thursday evening, waited for a decent gap in the traffic, turned left onto the road and a bit further along, such a person on a "cheap mountain bike" nearly collided with me; fortunately I saw him and emergency-stopped, because with his hoodie hood pulled up (on a glorious sunny evening ) he didn't see me until a last-minute swerve, by which point I was stationary with both feet firmly on the floor. To come close to colliding with me like this, the chap had ridden off the pavement and was at that point riding the wrong way on a busy main road...... . Motorists seeing that sort of behaviour would likely tar all other cyclists they see as similar ijits.

TPO

Re: Sally Shalloe

14 May 2016 - 3:16pm
..... Or maybe if all red lights protecting pedestrian/Toucan crossings had cameras that gave automatic 6 points for passing at red they would be taken more seriously?

I was half-way riding across a Toucan crossing a couple of weeks ago, the road lights long time red, and a LGV approached far too fast, it was obvious it wouldn't stop so I did..... it slid to a stop well over the crossing, fortunately no-one was crossing from the other side or they would have been hit. The crossing is on lights into a big roundabout, much further and the LGV would have taken out the traffic on the roundabout too. I have driven that route, and there is no excuse- sighting of the lights on approach is excellent.

TPO

Re: Cycling opportunity Keswick -Kendal

14 May 2016 - 2:02pm
Tangled Metal wrote:the road has been opened.

An e-mail headed 'Cumbria is Open!' from Independent Hostels Guide turned out to be about this - no-one would gather from reading it that cyclists and bus travelers have in fact been passing that way for months.

Cyclist killed in three-rider collision in Lancashire

14 May 2016 - 1:14pm
From BBC news online:

"A cyclist has died after colliding with another rider on a country road.
The man, 50, suffered major head injuries after falling from his bike at about 22:00 BST on Thursday.
A woman cycling in front of him came off her bike on Hill Lane in Colne‎, Lancashire, causing him to collide with another male cyclist, police said.
He was taken to Royal Blackburn Hospital and later transferred to Royal Preston Hospital where he died the next day.
The other male rider, 40, was uninjured while the 19-year-old woman suffered bruising to her leg.
Sgt David Hurst, of Lancashire Police, appealed for witnesses to come forward and said his "thoughts are with his family" after these "tragic circumstances"."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-la ... e-36293065
 
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