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Re: Dogs on cycle paths - how many where you live?

10 April 2016 - 10:03pm
Bicycler wrote:
A bit ridiculous perhaps, but there's a serious point here. Surely our national cycle network ought to be a network optimised for cycling, where cycling is quick and convenient. Cycling on a cycle route shouldn't be a slower, more subservient experience than using the roads.



We have a long way to go...This is NCN 246....about 10 miles of it actually.On a tour around Europe and between Dorset and Harwich most cycle paths were just cobbled together bits of footpath, tow path, old railway line and anything else that ticked a box... and that included many miles of public footpath with a few signs to tell the masses cyclists were allowed.

Re: rain

10 April 2016 - 10:03pm
No rain today. Mini V had a band rehearsal, so we rode bikes there & back in the sunshine

It is about 7 or 8 miles each way, and Mini V's friends sure looked impressed that she had cycled.

It was warm enough that we were down to base layers in the sun.

Re: Butser Hill - proposed cyclepath for the missing link

10 April 2016 - 9:46pm
A good proportion of the people I work with over at QECP are already incensed that such a large amount of money has been spent "on a few cyclists".
I have my work cut out trying to persuade them otherwise

That's an interesting view as members of the local CTC had been campaigning for years without success to get this link (or a similar version) and Rod Green (dec'd) of QECP senior staff was a very keen supporter of the route. When we tried again more recently and raised the required number of signatures senior management at QECP were again very supportive, lending their premises to assist, citing the very positive advantages to the park in spending money to get cyclists into the park from the north. Perhaps those staff whingeing about the few cyclists need reminding of that broader picture and that more visitors helps retain existing functions in the park?

Re: Cyclist swept away but OK

10 April 2016 - 9:18pm
Hi,
Spent most of my life dodging floods..........living a mile from the sea and swimming in it all year round.

After I left school, two who I knew very well were playing chicken on a beach prom which was circular, the waves would hit the wall and travel round at a faster rate.
Both went in and one came out...............found two miles up the coast by dog walker

The sea is crashing over the road today on the local news, I used to cycle that road several times a day for several years and never diverted despite the road closure.................................I once went into the sea on my own when in teens and it took me 15 minutes to make five yards up the beach to safety in less than one foot of water, spring tides and water rushing of beach, my feet just disappeared into the sand and I struggled a lot.

Most who enter to rescue vastly over estimate the job in hand, difficult to say whether cold river water or warmer rough sea is more dangerous.

Re: More navigation options...

10 April 2016 - 8:29pm
Bit like my original Garmin Etrex Summit, before mapping was available. As Bob said, on the road, you only really have limited options, so it's quite workable, and I took a while to bother with more advanced ones.

In the end, it was the limit to 50 points that got me, and this new product won't suffer from that.

Re: rain

10 April 2016 - 8:25pm
Several years back, I looked out the window of my house and saw it starting to rain heavily. I muttered something, and went to fetch something from another room. I got there and was surprised to see it was bright and sunny. "That stopped very suddenly" I thought. I went back to the first room, and it was still raining heavily. Yes, it was glorious sunshine on one side of the (small, terraced) house and chucking it down on the other!

Re: Cyclist swept away but OK

10 April 2016 - 6:19pm
Floodwater environments are incredibly dangerous. Aside from the obvious drowning hazard you have submerged obstacles you can't see, drain covers lifted by the hydraulic pressure, and when the flow reverses the same pressure can fold a man in half and suck him into a drain. If you're not FFR trained and suitably equipped then stay out of flood water and don't approach closer than 3 metres. People messing about in floodwater don't die by 'accident' - they die of the dumbs.

Re: rain

10 April 2016 - 5:53pm
Mick F wrote:We were out along the coastal paths near Golant, Fowey and Tywardreath yesterday on a walking pub crawl!
11hrs in total, and 12miles with seven pubs. Should have been eight pubs, but we got lost.

As we arrived at the first pub - The Fishermans Arms - the heavens opened, and then it hailed. We were under cover and out of it and our beers didn't get diluted, thank goodness. We were sat undercover to the right of this picture. http://fishermansarmsgolant.co.uk/wp-co ... 010317.jpg
By the time we left, the weather had cleared up, but once or twice we were caught in brief showers.

It's been blowing a hooligan today, and we're glad it wasn't like this yesterday.

Very nice route that. Part of it is known as Val's leap where the Mrs nearly went over the edge near Tywardreath.

Al

Re: rain

10 April 2016 - 5:09pm
It didn't rain today and there was a following wind home.
But then, of course, we weren't on the bike.

Re: rain

10 April 2016 - 4:45pm
We were out along the coastal paths near Golant, Fowey and Tywardreath yesterday on a walking pub crawl!
11hrs in total, and 12miles with seven pubs. Should have been eight pubs, but we got lost.

As we arrived at the first pub - The Fishermans Arms - the heavens opened, and then it hailed. We were under cover and out of it and our beers didn't get diluted, thank goodness. We were sat undercover to the right of this picture. http://fishermansarmsgolant.co.uk/wp-co ... 010317.jpg
By the time we left, the weather had cleared up, but once or twice we were caught in brief showers.

It's been blowing a hooligan today, and we're glad it wasn't like this yesterday.

Re: Cyclist swept away but OK

10 April 2016 - 4:45pm
Hi,
The path is raised and on either side there is a drop into water, about by memory as I don't normally stop there four feet, so its deep with the flood.
I did end up further on cycling through a flood on the road, have since regreased wheel bearings, metal sealed

Re: rain

10 April 2016 - 4:15pm
rain rain go away come again another day, preferably when I am not out cycling please.

Re: Butser Hill - proposed cyclepath for the missing link

10 April 2016 - 1:16pm
gaz wrote:I don't think the last option was chosen because it was fair. I think it was chosen because it was cheap.
Definitely the lowest cost option and probably the only politically acceptable one.

Imagine the howls of protest, from the motorists, if any road space had been taken to facilitate a better quality cycle route.

Combine that with the significant cost overrun and much-delayed completion date. Councillors and officials would have to take a lot of pressure.

A good proportion of the people I work with over at QECP are already incensed that such a large amount of money has been spent "on a few cyclists".
I have my work cut out trying to persuade them otherwise.

Since section 1 has been open I have seen 2 cyclists use it. I have seen many more continue using the road - which is what I do.

If the quality of experience, on a cycle path is less than the quality of experience, using the road then it is likely to have a very low usage.
This message continues to escape those who commission, design and build them.

I wish that they had stuck to the original plan - to leave section 1 until last - concentrating on the A3 severance issue.

Re: Cyclist swept away but OK

10 April 2016 - 12:37pm
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
This is probably where he was washed away, I decided not to get my feet wet.
You cant see in this picture but water is moving left to right at about 5 mph 18 - 24 " deep.

Frightening. even if no current all it takes is a dip in the ground for you to walk into...

"A cyclist has to do what a cyclist has to do"

Re: Another truck / cyclist incident in the capital

10 April 2016 - 11:05am
beardy wrote:Yet another one today. Not fatal.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/c ... 25077.html

I guess it will get to be so common that even cycle forums give up noticing it happening.
This one seems to have been missed http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/m ... 22294.html
https://www.leighday.co.uk/News/News-20 ... f-London-c

Re: Butser Hill - proposed cyclepath for the missing link

10 April 2016 - 10:06am
clandyfield wrote:To be fair, the exceedingly narrow footpath at the northern end of the railway bridge is governed by the badly executed roadway and so ...
There were options.

Redesign the roadway so that it is no longer badly executed.
Engineer reductions to traffic speed so that it is safe for cyclists to mix with motor vehicles on the carriageway across the bridge.
Build a new cycling / pedestrian bridge alongside the current one.
Stick up the two fingered sign that is "Cyclists dismount".

I don't think the last option was chosen because it was fair. I think it was chosen because it was cheap.

Re: Butser Hill - proposed cyclepath for the missing link

10 April 2016 - 9:40am
I'll stick my 4p on - sometime before winter Solstice 2016 ?

Re: rain

10 April 2016 - 9:25am
I've been driving along a motorway once, in good light, with no rain at all.

There were rivulets running across the carriageway because on the other code of the central reservation it was lashing it down - everyone had their lights on, and wipers going full blast, and reduced speed...

The boundary just happened to be along the central reservation, for over a mile.

Re: rain

10 April 2016 - 8:59am
That's what they mean when the met office use the term 'localised heavy showers'

Re: rain

10 April 2016 - 8:26am
We were caught in a torrential downpour only 3 miles from home. We took shelter in the porch of a village church. We had to wait almost an hour for it to pass. We set off homewards to discover that only 100 yards further on the roads were bone dry and they had missed it all!
 
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