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Re: Needed to borrow - OS maps

13 May 2016 - 8:00am
local library?

Needed to borrow - OS maps

13 May 2016 - 7:07am
Hi,

Having looked at various GPS options for the Dorset Gravel Dash at the end of the month I've decided to stick to good old fashioned paper!

Because I'm renowned for being squeaky tight though I wonder if anyone has OS Explorer 1:25,000 numbers 117 and OL15 I could borrow?

https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/shop/e ... regis.html
https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/shop/e ... orset.html

Thanks!

Re: South Downs Way on a touring bike ??

12 May 2016 - 10:28pm
Mrs T and I cycled the SDW from Guildford to Shoreham just after Easter as part of our route to Paris.

Ground was quite wet in places and the bikes ended up very muddy but was perfectly doable on touring bike with panniers.

Our bodies were quite a bit shaken at the end and I wouldn't be hurrying to do it again, but it was OK for a one off.

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Derek

Re: First cycle tour

12 May 2016 - 10:25pm
I'd suggest checking out the Avon cycleway circular route, and maybe throwing in an extra bit to include Cheddar and back on the Strawberry line cycle path. Lovely ride.

Re: First cycle tour

12 May 2016 - 9:39pm
These are all helpful suggestions, thanks all.

Re: South Downs Way on a touring bike ??

12 May 2016 - 9:04pm
I love the naysayers, I completed the sdw late last year with a friend over three days I rode a Boardman CX Team and my mate rode a Boardman hybrid team, both bikes were loaded with panniers tent and all necessary. I would say at times it was an endurance ride, but that said still thoroughly enjoyed it. First day ended with us pitching tents via torchlight having ridden down a byway to get to camp site which would have been a struggle on a fully suspended, it was entertaining to say the least. We had one or two more moments like that but completed the route without serious issues, there were only a few hilly sections we got beaten on (no traction) but other than that it was a blast.

Re: First cycle tour

12 May 2016 - 7:47pm
Chepstow-Usk-Abergevenny-Brecon keeping off the main roads. Could drop to Cardiff on Route8 (Taff Trail) and then back to Bristol on 47 or 4 but better just to go back roughly the same way you went out.
Go up the Severn in England (Vale of Berkely) on Sustrans, then Newent-Monmouth-Usk-Chepstow.

You could follow Sustrans Route4 or 47 East or West but going West through Newport and Cardiff is more "educational" than scenic.

Re: First cycle tour

12 May 2016 - 7:46pm
As said half the fun is choosing somewhere to go, is there a part of the countryside you like, or want to explore more... then devising routes to get there and back.

Some years ago we started and finished a tour in Bristol, admittedly it was a 2 week trip to Land's End and back but there was plenty of stuff we did that could form a 4 day route ... we went out into the Mendips and on along the coast to places like Watchet and Minehead, back via a more southerly route.

Alternatively you could the train to somewhere further north, Forest of Dean, Wye Valley, Southern Wales... Monmouth area? Or out towards Wiltshire and Dorset.

Check out British Cycle Quest, you get cards for every county, each has 6 questions to be answered by visiting the site by bike.... we have used these on holiday to form a days ride out from a camp site..... you could incorporate them into a mini tour.

Do you have other interests; bird watching, old churches etc... you could make up a tour visiting churches, museums or bird reserves (just a few ideas off the top of my head).

Re: First cycle tour

12 May 2016 - 7:31pm
My first cycle camping tour was from Reading to Bristol Temple Meads using NCN 4, taking you in part along the Kennet and Avon canal and the Bath to Bristol cycle path. Plenty of B&B options and nice pubs. Could be done in reverse, dont forget to book your cycle reservation with GWR from next week.

Re: First cycle tour

12 May 2016 - 7:28pm
I think part of the fun of any tour is working out the route.

First thing is, is there anywhere you want to go?

Even if not, I'd get something like a good road atlas, roughly work out the sort of distance you want to do and then build a route. You can usually see the smaller roads and also work out where you will get your r&r.

If using maps, OS landranger are good and often available from your local library. They may be too detailed and bulky to carry, but you can use them for planning. They show the national cycle routes, places of interest and have contours - what more could you want.

From Bristol you have got lots of choice and my guess is that you will get a lot more satisfaction out of a route you plan.

Re: First cycle tour

12 May 2016 - 7:01pm
NCN West Country Way from say Temple Meads to Chew Magna and on. Train back from say Bridgwater or Taunton?

Go to cycle.travel for maps etc etc

Re: Northern England Road Cycling Tour - any help appreciate

12 May 2016 - 6:46pm
Thank you all very much !

First cycle tour

12 May 2016 - 6:43pm
In the long term I intend to cycle JOGLE but before I do that I want to get some touring experience so I'm thinking of doing a 3 or 4 day tour starting and returning to Bristol.I'd like to do something scenic and I'm ok with hills.

So I'm wondering if anyone can recommend routes which could form all or part of such a tour. Alternatively could someone point me to online planning resources.

My cycle fitness is excellent from 20+ years of "furious" cycle commuting, but I'm not thinking of doing particularly long stages, I just want get a feel for the logistics of cycle touring.

I would almost certainly stay in b & b - I have plenty of experience here as I do a lot of long distance walking.

Re: New forum member

12 May 2016 - 6:18pm
Hi everyone, so after a few months of using this bike, I've decide that it may not be the best suited to touring. I'm hoping to trade it in to my local shop for a Giant Defy 1 or similar. I'm gonna get plenty use from a road bike over the summer and autumn.
Although I'm only getting a trade in value of €900, €1300 new.!!!
Am I crazy???
My plan is then to buy something more suited to touring later this year.


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Re: New Route Planner

12 May 2016 - 4:02pm
mjr wrote:Bmblbzzz wrote:It's not working for me. The map zoom is unusable; either showing the whole of the British Isles or zooming in very close on random places. No user controllability. Windows 8.1, Opera.
Similar experience for me. Firefox forty-something (latest) on debian 8. The 12 page table-of-contents for instructions that open when I click "Route" is rather off-putting.

Map panning doesn't work in Chrome on Mac.

Re: Long touring without front panniers

12 May 2016 - 3:30pm
Sweep wrote:Ridgie wrote:I'm currently in a position to buy a fairly light touring bike, (titanium) that will not accommodate front panniers.
Got to ask (or you never learn) - why won't it accommodate front panniers?
Same query here. You don't need braze ons to fit a front carrier

Re: Dawes Horizon?

12 May 2016 - 3:16pm
BrianFox wrote:Winnats is a killer, kudos to anyone who completes it, but I don't think it gets close to 30%

http://cyclinguphill.com/winnats-pass/

I've managed it once. The problem is that it runs from east to west and if it's a westerly wind in blows straight down it, and the hills on each side seem to have a funnelling effect. I get 3/4 of the way up and there's a change in direction so that the wind is blowing straight in your face. I'm usually going so slowly at this point that the sudden gust of wind brings me to a standstill and I have to stop. I then find the the hill is so steep that I can't get going again.

The one time I did manage to get up, it was an easterly wind (tailwind).

Re: New Route Planner

12 May 2016 - 2:17pm
Bmblbzzz wrote:It's not working for me. The map zoom is unusable; either showing the whole of the British Isles or zooming in very close on random places. No user controllability. Windows 8.1, Opera.
Similar experience for me. Firefox forty-something (latest) on debian 8. The 12 page table-of-contents for instructions that open when I click "Route" is rather off-putting.

Re: Long touring without front panniers

12 May 2016 - 1:23pm
Agree with this ^^^
The reason these bags are now popular is, I think, because carbon lightweight racing bikes have become much better and more reliable, and lightweight wheels as well. This means such bikes can be used on these long-distance endurance events, such as the TCR and Mark Beaumont's Africa trip. Look at what those gnarly women (eg Emily Chappell) are riding on that Scottish 500.

These are fast, reliable, lightweight bikes.

But this type of bike doesn't take racks - back or front - so you have to use these smaller bags attached to the frame.

Now that carbon is more reliable (good carbon, that is, not cheap stuff) people doing long-distance endurance rides across continents will use it (assuming they can afford it, obvs). The notion that if a steel frame breaks you can weld it is true but I suspect the middle of Tanzania is the place to look for someone who can weld a gas pipe, not a high-quality steel bike frame. If Mark Beaumont's carbon bike, lightweight wheels, electronic gear changers, etc, had gone wrong his ride would have finished there and then. But it didn't.

He used a Rohloff hub gear for the round-the-world trip but went back to derailleurs with D2 changers for Africa, an interesting choice.
 
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