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Re: Has Anyone Toured With a Guitar?

5 May 2016 - 5:54pm
I'm impressed by Cello Joe. If he can manage a cello I'm sure a guitar is do-able.

I certainly wouldn't fancy taking a quality instrument though. I'm thinking more of a cheap guitar, possibly 3/4 size. Cover it with a bin bag to keep it dry. Carrying it on my back is out. I was thinking about just putting it on top of the rack with the neck pointing back and down.

Penny whistles sound crap so that's a non-starter.

Re: Lyon to Ljubljana across the Alps: route advice

5 May 2016 - 5:39pm
Freytag & Berndt Austria 1:500 000 will cover much of the route. It takes in much of north Italy and all of Slovenia as well as Austria. The detail was enough for me though the map quality wasn't that great.

I cycled Lyon to Slovenia myself a couple of years ago. There are so many possible routes and places of interest it's hard to say what would be best. It kind of depends how much climbing you want to do and if you're looking to do many high passes or avoid them. You should definitely give yourself some time to see the Dolomites as they are stunning but not easy to pass through quickly.

Probably the most straightforward route from Lyon through Switzerland is to follow the Rhone up to Furka then follow the Rhein until you reach Austria. Whether it's the most scenic route I'm not sure - you don't see much of the French Alps. The weather was quite poor when I was there but the scenery was nice enough.

Re: Lyon to Ljubljana across the Alps: route advice

5 May 2016 - 5:01pm
Mangart is well worth the climb (highest paved road in Slovenia), and there's great roads from Italy/Austria via Tarvisio. From Mangart up via Tretna (Soca valley, again well worth it). Once over into Kranjska Gora you'll find the run down to Llubljana easy (and downhill), there's a cycle path much/half of the way on the left side.

I cycled there and back last year from the UK (via Germany and Austria, and back via Italy/Lyon), really great destination.

Re: Lyon to Ljubljana across the Alps: route advice

5 May 2016 - 4:34pm
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Re: Lyon to Ljubljana across the Alps: route advice

5 May 2016 - 4:21pm
So far as Austria and Slovenija is concerned, one option might be to follow the Drau river either to Maribor, or to Villach and then pick up the Ciclovia Alpe-Adria Radweg to Tarvisio (or almost to Tarvisio) before turning right to Kranjska Gora and then on to Jeseniče. The Austrian bits of the Drauradweg are do-able on a road bike but, from what I've read the route gets rougher as you go further east.

Maps? For route planning, your best option is probably to download the OpenStreetMap maps from openfietsmap.nl and then use them in Garmin Basecamp. On the road I prefer 1:200,000 maps but there's a trade-off between detail and the number of maps that it's sensible to carry. So you might need to compromise on 1:400,000. Freytag and Berndt are good for the eastern bits.

Oh and the terrain view in Google Maps is also handy.

I've put together an article with links to resources for cycling in Slovenija. It's mainly about western Slovenija, but there might be some stuff that's useful:

http://italy-cycling-guide.info/cyclewa ... a-austria/

Re: Lyon to Ljubljana across the Alps: route advice

5 May 2016 - 3:49pm
It depends which bits you want to take in. If you want to ride Alp D'Huez, Col Du Galibier, Col de Croix de Fer/ Glandon then head towards Grenoble. You could then head toward La Chambre (go to the Boule club for the set dinner) and over the Col de la Madeleine to Bourg St Maurice and over the Petite St Bernard into Italy.
This shows some bike route in various regions on Italy including the NE.

http://italy-cycling-guide.info/region- ... ast-italy/

Re: New Route Planner

5 May 2016 - 1:45pm
I'll admit I've not tested it on Android for a while! But I do test it on an iPhone. Generally browsers are fairly well-behaved these days - if something works in Chrome on a desktop machine it'll usually work on Android.

Ultimately I'd like to build dedicated apps for it but there are never enough hours in the day...

Lyon to Ljubljana across the Alps: route advice

5 May 2016 - 12:47pm
Dear all,

I'm planning to go from Lyon traversing as much of the Alps as possible down into Slovenia over the course of 20 or so days, camping/warm showering as I go.

Does anybody have any advice with regards to the best maps or any particularly good routes to include?

Thanks lots,

Robby

Re: Rail: To Oban

5 May 2016 - 12:07pm
iviehoff wrote:To be clear, ........
So try getting separate quotes for the journey to Glasgow and the journey from GQS to Oban, or breaking it down even more if you have to change to get to Glagow.

iviehoff's post is clear in as far as it goes, but it leaves out a lot of the split ticket options. Train companies are free to price their own tickets as they please, they'll price in whatever way they think will sell best. It's often possible to buy split tickets where you don't even get off the train. Traveling Derby to London is sometimes cheaper to get a ticket to Bedford and then from there to London and stay on the same train. Another case is where part of your journey is in peak times, I’ve travelled to York on a morning train by buying a peak ticket to Sheffield and off peak for the rest of the journey which is cheaper than buying a single ticket for the same train.
I think the point made previously about booking websites leaving limited time between trains is valid, but worth checking for the specific journey. I can’t imagine such a site would expect you to get from one Glasgow station to another in such a short time.

Re: Has Anyone Toured With a Guitar?

5 May 2016 - 11:01am
A plastic ocarina is also good - less vulnerable to being bent or squashed, and also less piercing. It fits in a jersey pocket so you could tootle away at red traffic lights.

Re: Rail: To Oban

5 May 2016 - 10:30am
To be clear, all Oban trains leave from Glasgow Queen Street, though on weekdays there is one very early morning train (0450) that comes direct from Edinburgh via GQS (returns to Ed late evening). Most people, unless they live in Scotland, arrive in Glasgow at Glasgow Central and have to transfer the approx. 1000yds between the two stations by street. Because GQS High Level platforms - ie the street level platforms - are not in use at the moment because of the tunnel works, you have to leave from the GQS Low Level platforms, ie, underground. So, unless you are arriving at GQS using a train from Edinburgh, you will almost certainly be crossing Glasgow by street and descending to the low level platforms at GQS. There is sufficient pedestrian congestion in accessing the low level platforms that they have put a queuing system in place.

There is a national train tariff for every station to every station, but it only has full price and standard off-peak tickets. Cheap advance tickets are company-specific tickets, and a complete station to station tariff is not written for them, often not even within the company's own region. Sometimes good deals on connecting services are available (for example when I go between Hereford (or Leominster) and London, GWR writes a cheap ticket via Newport because it wants the business, and because people are willing to pay a premium to travel on the direct trains via Oxford. But in many cases where a journey involves 2, or especially more, train companies it serves you well to consider buying the two, or more, parts separately. This is not the only reason for tickety-splitting, but it is a common one. If you live somewhere you have to change to get to Glasgow, then it wouldn't surprise me that if you get a one-ticket quote for your location to Oban you end up being quoted the national full price because it would use 3 companies, but it may also happen even if you do have direct trains to Glasgow. For example, I live outside London and I would never consider getting a quote from my local station to an intercity destination, I would get a quote from London, and pay the local journey separately, it is nearly always cheaper, because they don't "write" cheap tickets to my local station.

So try getting separate quotes for the journey to Glasgow and the journey from GQS to Oban, or breaking it down even more if you have to change to get to Glagow.

Re: Cycle touring in Jordan

5 May 2016 - 9:55am
Matt25 wrote:Do you think it would be easy enough to arrange loading the bike on a bus back north (if I was to ride South from Amman to Aqaba)?

We had no difficulty using a bus from Amman to Irbid, so I would imagine so. It is the kind of country where if you have some money available, people are pleased to try and fix things for you. Very friendly country. It is also the kind of country where long distance taxis are pretty reasonable.

Re: New Route Planner

5 May 2016 - 5:57am
It does for me, too! How on earth did I miss that?

It's amazing that Richard finds the time not only to do the routing and mapping work, but then to get the interface so right on multiple platforms. Great work!

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Re: New Route Planner

5 May 2016 - 1:11am
rfryer wrote:I've just had another play with cycle.travel after a longish absence; it's looking really good, especially the mall display on Android. One question though; is it possible to add via points in Android, that aren't on the existing route? It seems that I can tap on the route to create a via point, but I can't then drag it onto a different road.

Thanks!

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If you hold your finger on a via point for a second or so and then drag it the point moves (or it does for me ).

Rick

Re: New Route Planner

4 May 2016 - 11:49pm
Thanks Richard.

Re: New Route Planner

4 May 2016 - 11:04pm
I've just had another play with cycle.travel after a longish absence; it's looking really good, especially the map display on Android. One question though; is it possible to add via points in Android, that aren't on the existing route? It seems that I can tap on the route to create a via point, but I can't then drag it onto a different road.

Thanks!

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Re: Has Anyone Toured With a Guitar?

4 May 2016 - 9:50pm
wheel71 wrote:I've been contemplating taking my "tenor banjo" away with me. I'd love to have it but is it worth the extra hassle of having another valued item to look after?
Maybee learning the tin whistle is a more sensible idea.

Tin whistles are great. I always take mine away with me. They are cheap, not affected by weather/damp, pack away easily (I have one that splits in two for extra portability) and don't need tuning.

Re: New Route Planner

4 May 2016 - 8:58pm
Bicycler wrote:I don't have any problem at all with the rate of updating. I have no desire to bring about Richard's deafening by server noise viewtopic.php?f=16&t=83831&p=956095&hilit=server#p956095 I would just find it helpful to be able to check the date of the current import. A footnote or simple changelog would suffice.

Good idea! I've just added a page to list that: http://cycle.travel/map/info . It automatically changes whenever I update the maps (it's the timestamp of the last download).

SA_SA_SA wrote:Is it much work to add optional intermediate text boxes for 'via' points (like the way google maps allows new destination text boxes to be added (and moved between start and destination if needed)?

When you say routes are precalculated, is that a subset of the most likely routes, surely 2^Possible start and end points in UK is a huge number?

Adding intermediate text boxes is definitely on the to-do list. It's not a trivial change, but on the other hand it'll give me the opportunity to add drop-down autocomplete to the placename entry, which I've wanted to do for a while. So watch this space.

The precalculation uses an algorithm called Contraction Hierarchies, which essentially relies on the fact that optimal routes cluster onto a network after a while. It's easiest to think of for driving routes - no matter where in Oxfordshire you start, if you're going to Scotland, you'll ultimately end up on the M40 and then the M6 before long. If you're curious, Dennis Luxen, the creator of OSRM (the core routing software that cycle.travel uses), gave a good talk on it at an OpenStreetMap conference a couple of years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Pt_LnQjywc . He's a clever guy - shortly afterwards he was hired by Apple...

Re: Advice / Touring Partner wanted for UK to Scandinavia!

4 May 2016 - 8:38pm
RobCyclist wrote:khain wrote:I've cycled that route (roughly) between Oslo and Gothenberg but in the opposite direction. It's nice enough but a bit boring compared to the fjords further north. The area around Oslo is very forested and can be a bit monotonous.

It's still a great cycle and the Swedish coast is very nice but I can't help feeling the route would be more interesting in the opposite direction, as it would build more, or even heading north from Bergen towards Trondheim. You'll kind of feel like you're winding down towards the end by going south.

Hmm lots of people here seem to recommend Norways East coast over going to Sweden, so might end up getting a cargoship to gothernburg (so I can see a bit of sweden and I know that route exists as well) and then head towards trondheim. Not decided what I'll do, but thanks for the comment.
Personally, I like the rural roads winding through forest and farm. I can see that more than a few days of Sweden could be a bit boring, but I don't think just the route from Oslo to Gothenberg would be too much. I think it's worth seeing Sweden, and the cycling is a bit easier. However, it's true that Norway's west coast can't be beat for dramatic scenery, and I have to admit that if it was my choice, I'd pick Atlanterhavsveien over the Oslofjord.

Re: Advice / Touring Partner wanted for UK to Scandinavia!

4 May 2016 - 7:42pm
khain wrote:I've cycled that route (roughly) between Oslo and Gothenberg but in the opposite direction. It's nice enough but a bit boring compared to the fjords further north. The area around Oslo is very forested and can be a bit monotonous.

It's still a great cycle and the Swedish coast is very nice but I can't help feeling the route would be more interesting in the opposite direction, as it would build more, or even heading north from Bergen towards Trondheim. You'll kind of feel like you're winding down towards the end by going south.

Hmm lots of people here seem to recommend Norways West coast over going to Sweden, so might end up getting a cargoship to gothernburg (so I can see a bit of sweden and I know that route exists as well) and then head towards trondheim. Not decided what I'll do, but thanks for the comment.
 
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