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Re: To the bottom tip of Sicily

8 February 2016 - 4:26pm
Cycled from Palermo, east along northern coast & then south down east coast a couple of years ago,in May.
Great ride!
Then put bike on the bus back to Palermo,& did a short section of west coast before returning home.

Re: Pump Recommendations

8 February 2016 - 4:22pm
I too would recommend Lezyne.
Well made & very effective for compact size.

Re: Loire a velo. Logistics.

8 February 2016 - 3:08pm
And having thought about it a little more it had occured to me that Eurostar to Paris and then train from Paris to Nevers might be a better option than EBE.

Re: Loire a velo. Logistics.

8 February 2016 - 3:06pm
Thanks Andy and Tony. The websites look very useful.


Re: Child friendly, car camping and cycling, Northern Europe

8 February 2016 - 3:05pm
I would have recommended the Rhine, also. But since that's taken another to consider is Ostfriesland in Germany. Yuo can take the coastal route (I think it's part of the North Sea Cycle route?), which is mostly on (good) cycle paths and not too hilly for a trailer.

Re: Loire a velo. Logistics.

8 February 2016 - 3:00pm
Our group cycled Orleans to St Brevin last year. We drove over, left car in a train station car park, and got the train back from St. Nazaire on the last day.

You just have to watch which trains let bikes on at St. Nazaire, we tried to board one that appeared to allow trains and were told to wait for another later in day with dedicated bike carriage.

The ride was fantastic btw.. would recommend it.

Re: Wheel recommendations for credit card touring

8 February 2016 - 2:35pm
mnichols wrote:I was going to use Continental Grand Prix 4 seasons, although on a recent tour where my friends were on 4 seasons, I had far fewer punctures than them with Grand Prix 4sii

anyone found anything better than the above, and views on whether the 4s is actually better than the 4 seasons

I was on 28mm, they were on 25mm

I've tried various other of the tyres in the GP range (most recently the 4000s, which the tech in the lbs said were the closest compound to 4 seasons), and I think the 4 seasons are more puncture resistant, and also give better traction in adverse conditions, especially wet or frost.

That said, the size makes a difference, too. I've generally had fewer punctures on 28 mm tyres than skinnier ones; even 25s, and I would take 28s, rather then 25s, even for a credit card tour.

Re: Child friendly, car camping and cycling, Northern Europe

8 February 2016 - 2:34pm
You could try the Rhine
And although you say you've 'done' France if you haven't been to the Alsace it's feels more German in many ways than French.
You could do the wine route and possible make it a circular route with the Rhine. ... y-bicycle/

Re: Wheel recommendations for credit card touring

8 February 2016 - 2:17pm
mnichols wrote: I have Ultegra hubs on the hand built wheels and these roll brilliantly,hence why I'm considering the Ultegra Wheels, at £200 they seem a bargain
The Mavics are great, but already have a pair, and the Ultegra is £300 cheaper

Just a personnel concern with the the Ultegra 6800 wheels is the report of them having shallow rims. ... gra-wheels
This makes it hard to fit tyres, not a problem for some, but I struggle with my hands being slightly arthritic now.
How are these regarding the spoke replacements that you where asking about?

I really like my Krysiums and have looked for a cheaper replacement if they ever have to be replaced.
I have considered the RS80/24 (carbon composites) but some reports said that they can flex?
I also would look at Campag' Zondas and they are available in either Shimano or Campag' cassette versions.

I currently run Campag' Scirrocos as an alternative to the Ksyriums but they are as heavy as my Open Pro's.
The only thing I don't like about my Ksyriums is the very noisy freehub clutch.

The Ksysriums came on a 1 year old (second hand half price) Enigma Eclipse in 2009 and have been virtually bombproof. I decided in the end to sell the frame, as it was fractionally a bit small for me, and swapped all the parts onto a Carbon frame bike.
So still using the Kysriums but run the Scirrocos if it's very windy.
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Re: Loire a velo. Logistics.

8 February 2016 - 1:28pm
Have you tried here? ... eurovelo-6?

or here?

There's a reasonable choice of trains from Paris. A good way to find bike-friendly trains is to use - click on 'further search options' and then check the box at the bottom that shows you trains that have bike-carriage facilities. This won't show you TGV trains but it's the easiest option. I've uploaded an extract of the timetable printout.Paris Bercy is pretty easy to get to from the Gare du Nord.

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Re: Loire a velo. Logistics.

8 February 2016 - 12:50pm
Four of us are planning to cycle the Loire Valley this August, starting in Nevers and going downstream as far as Angers. The immediate challenge seems to be how to get to the start point. Any suggestions would be welcome. We are wondering how we could link to the European Bike Express. I have looked at but most of the resources seem to relate to sections further downstream.

Re: Pump Recommendations

8 February 2016 - 12:23pm
I have this ... rh5dH8biK0
Superb bit of kit, they do a high pressure or a high volume version, I have the HV version and it's a genuinely useful pump and makes short work of 2" tyres,I previously had a topeake micro somethings or other and replaced it after my first puncture.

Re: Aeropress Coffee Maker

8 February 2016 - 12:16pm
Heltor Chasca wrote:The Aeropress. Not my cup of tea I'm afraid. Ahem.

I wouldn't give the Aeropress a second chance. Useless after 6 months.

Aside from it's low weight and initial ability to make a clean cup of coffee, I feel as if I have wasted nearly £30. After 6 months the rubber seal has degraded to a point where it leaks in the 'upright' position or collapses in the 'inverted' position. As for the mess it makes: All very well in a campsite but I'm fed up with the extra wiping up I have to do in my kitchen

For the cost of postage, you are welcome to any spares: funnel, chamber, paddle, filters and holder. PM if you'd like anything.

For the extra few grams I'm back to my Bialetti....b

That's surprising, they have a good reputation and the seal is very beefy. Mines been faultless for well over a year and mess free, coffee in the top ( inverted method) water in, wait a short while then plunge. Then compressed pick is than ejected in to the bin with zero mess. Mines been so good I've retired my gaggia, while the aeropress can't make espresso I find it so quick and easy. Are you sure it's a genuine aeropress?

Re: Pump Recommendations

8 February 2016 - 12:12pm
Pete Jack wrote:I believe the Mountain Morph is the same thing with a bigger piston so if you have large volume, lower pressure tyres it may be a better bet, the Road Morph takes a lot of strokes to pump up my wife's 1 1/2" tyres.

I've got the Turbo Morph which also has an MTB piston, I chose it because I preferred the round gauge to the in-line one, and because CJ gave it a favourable review. I hoped that having the pump braced against the floor and 35mm tyres would compensate for the extra force required. It doesn't, and I don't like it. I looked at the Lezyne, but I was put off by the non-standard hose that costs megabucks to replace.

Re: Aeropress Coffee Maker

8 February 2016 - 11:57am
drink TEA

Re: Heathrow airport by bike

8 February 2016 - 11:45am
Great reply thanks. I hadn't realised it was temporary.

Re: Heathrow airport by bike

8 February 2016 - 11:03am
We fell foul of this last year arriving into T3 with a tandem. Not sure I can answer all your questions because the web pages I got information from seem to have disappeared, but from what I can remember...

This is a temporary arrangement while the tunnels are refurbished. The intention is to bring the service tunnels back into use as a cycle route when the refurbishment is finished. Not sure if its going to be one dedicated tunnel two way for cyclists (which I encountered in 2014) or one way tunnels shared with taxis as before.

For us, the best route in/out was via T5 and Heathrow Express (fast, frequent and free between terminals). Cycle paths to T5 are excellent.

Heathrow seem genuinely keen that their workforce cycle (to do with targets they have for air pollution/CO2 I think). I think the bus you mentioned is primarily for Heathrow workers who are encouraged to park at the Cycle Hub and get the bus in. (Not sure if it's the same bus to actually take your bike in.) It might be worth contacting the Cycle Hub with your questions.

This page says the work is to be completed this month, so depending on when you are travelling, you may not have a problem.

Trains in Ireland

8 February 2016 - 10:37am
Hi all,
We have booked our ferry from Holyhead to Dublin and we have our accommodation booked in Kenmare (Kerry). We now have to get 3 cyclists and their bikes from Dublin to Killarney (and back). Our preference is not to use a car but it seems the Irish inter city trains only have space for 2 bikes? Although there seems to be differing opinion on this one?

Is this true?

We are considering hiring a car with rack / van but didn't really want to drive all week.

Anyone got any ideas?


Re: Pump Recommendations

8 February 2016 - 10:14am
Thanks both, I have something similar to the road morph for touring which I carry in my panniers, so the lezyne seems a good compliment for day rides

Re: Wheel recommendations for credit card touring

8 February 2016 - 10:10am
My experience with the hand built wheels is that the spokes aren't tensioned as tight, which means that they absorb more, are more comfortable and more suitable to carry a load. The spokes are also less likely to break (IMHO), but they feel sluggish

My experience with the mavics is that the spokes are really tight, transfer power really effectively, and feel really fast, but the spokes are more likely to break and not designed to carry a load. Comfort is not a problem when paired with 28mm tyres

I have Ultegra hubs on the hand built wheels and these roll brilliantly,hence why I'm considering the Ultegra Wheels, at £200 they seem a bargain

The Mavics are great, but already have a pair, and the Ultegra is £300 cheaper
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