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Re: Long touring without front panniers

8 May 2016 - 11:18pm
I would ask for a trial ride, fit the panniers etc and load up the bike. Then ride it and descend some hills at speed to make sure its going to be shimmy free. Light bikes seldom make decent tourers with no vices.


Re: Ridgeway - Avebury to Uffington

8 May 2016 - 10:57pm
well it aint a cycle track thats to be sure. I have only done the bit up the whitehorse/castle from what used to be the Ridgeway YHA ( Wantage ) on my Dawes 1-Down. Not sure I would like to do it on a 700c wheeled bike. In the end I walked it. Horrible. I believe it is one of the few tracks that permit vehicles so it is not a nice surface? not much fun for the bit I did. But you live and learn....

Re: Long touring without front panniers

8 May 2016 - 10:57pm
Better off without front panniers, if you can get all your kit in. If there's any weight in there you can get a pendulum effect making hill climbing much harder work on the arms.

Re: Long touring without front panniers

8 May 2016 - 10:40pm
I hope your expensive bike dont get nicked.

Re: Long touring without front panniers

8 May 2016 - 7:54pm
Simple dimple - easy peasy - use a saddle bag. My cycle camping setup uses a small pair of front panniers (which you could fit on the rear) with a Campers Longflap saddlebag and a tent strapped across the rack behind the saddlebag, plus a bar bag for paperwork, snack etc. The panniers (small) take sleeping kit and cooking kit. Clothing, toiletries etc are in the saddlebag. I too tend to be away for about a month. I've never felt the need for 4 panniers ---yet.

Re: Touring Cyclist Club .... a new resource

8 May 2016 - 7:52pm
It's sounding more and more like something that's driven by CTC factional politics - a resource for CTC traditionalists who've got the hump.

Cycling's answer to the Baden Powell Scouts? Hopefully you'll prove me wrong.

Corby to Wadenhoe

8 May 2016 - 7:49pm
This might be a bit of a specific question, but does anyone know the roads from Corby, Northamptonshire, to Wadenhoe?

Going into Corby from the northwest, I can't see how to avoid the A427, but that's only less than 1 kilometre, including A427/Cottingham road inside Corby. I can see what looks like a blue pedestrian/cycle sign to the left (going southish), so that might be a cycle path there taking me through Corby.

Going out the bottom of Corby looks more difficult. I leave the A427 inside Corby (several options) and go through regular housing estates. But, once I get to Stanion, I have to take the A6116 to Brigstock. Again, it looks as if there is a cycle path next to the road (I found one pedestrian/cycle blue sign) but if anyone has detailed knowledge, I'd like to know if the cycle paths cover the whole distance, or if they stop and start like many of them do.

Once I'm out of Brigstock I have the opposite problem. To get to Wadenhoe, I turn left into Haley Way, and then turn right into a seemingly unnamed dirt road that has no google streetview for part of it (? - how would that happen?) Again, it's rather specific, but does anyone have local knowledge of that road. Avoiding it would send me much further down the A6116 to Lowick, through Adwincle, and then to Wadenhoe.

EDIT: As per usual for me, this is a day trip. And, these questions are only about part of it. It isn't this short!

Long touring without front panniers

8 May 2016 - 7:44pm
I'm currently in a position to buy a fairly light touring bike, (titanium) that will not accommodate front panniers. The bike suits me perfectly in every other aspect, and, as it will be very expensive, the lightness will make it an excellent machine for regular club use as well as summer tours.
I generally expect to tour for up to a month at a time in the summer. and I have always gone with 2 front and 2 rear panniers and no other storage. I camp and cook, but take a lightish load nonetheless. Does anyone feel that I will be able to substitute the front panniers with one of the the new 'frame bags' combined with a bar bag? And could this combo make up for the loss of both front panniers?

Re: Hub Dynamo

8 May 2016 - 5:53pm
professorcrusty wrote:I have a dynamo hub on my Surly and would always get one now. Yes, it adds a bit up front but I never have to worry about lights plus I charge my phone as I ride.

XT Dynamo on my DT with USB. No drag, a bit of negligible weight but I don't have to worry about charge. EVER. Happy shopping...b

Re: Hub Dynamo

8 May 2016 - 5:45pm
I have a dynamo hub on my Surly and would always get one now. Yes, it adds a bit up front but I never have to worry about lights plus I charge my phone as I ride.

Re: Navigation App

8 May 2016 - 5:42pm
I have been using Viewranger for a year now. It's great, plan on the laptop and follow on the app. Took me Caen to San Sebastien last year with no problems. You can plot the route or leave it to the programme to get a trans city or town route. It warns if you are off the route but otherwise lets you get on with riding.

Re: Navigation App

8 May 2016 - 5:29pm
Osmand +. Was using it extensively in France last week, walking and cycling. Its absolutely brilliant and accepts .gpx tracks created by other software. If you deviate from an imported track it recalculates to get you back on it. The voice directions are very good too. I mount my Android Smartphone on my stem and run it from there.


Navigation App

8 May 2016 - 5:06pm

I'v tried the search function, and it comes up with loads of half results - can anyone recommend a navigation app that will do point by point navigation from uploaded GPX files primarily

If it is capable of calculating a route on its own even better, but most important is being able to upload information to it and just follow route on screen


Re: Touring Cyclist Club .... a new resource

8 May 2016 - 4:31pm
Barred1 wrote:I guess that after the CTC AGM these guys are going to see a spike in interest? Looks like a launch is imminent - "I'm in" as they say on Dragon's Den


You're correct. We've had a mass of "I'm interested" messages over the past 24 hours and there's an update on the website with when we're hoping to launch a low-cost membership plan with insurance options.

The messages are indicating that will better serve members with a new club with touring focus rather than a re-hash of CTC which a few people have suggested elsewhere. A fresh approach, but not losing sight of the traditions that CTC has chucked out of the window over recent years.


PS : we're about to launch a competition to design a logo for Touring Cyclist Club so watch out for details

Re: new(ish) Ortliebs

8 May 2016 - 4:27pm
gloomyandy wrote:You must have got that last ones.

Yes, I did, but saw your post too late to inform you.

Nevertheless, it's £10.00 well spent.


Re: new(ish) Ortliebs

8 May 2016 - 1:46pm
Thanks for that. Called in at Spa yesterday, none of the hooks left! You must have got that last ones. No matter have ordered some online.

Re: new(ish) Ortliebs

8 May 2016 - 10:51am
Hi gloomy,

here is the link

MartinBrice wrote:As for the problem with the clips on Ortliebs: you are not alone. Here is a post I made elsewhere. This might solve your problem.

The problem:
Ortlieb panniers come with gurt big hooks and smaller inserts for the hooks, which make the hooks fit snugly on the rails of the racks. But these little inserts are a pain: they can fall out and be lost or twist and get stuck so it's difficult to get them seated correctly. BUT if you remove them entirely, the panniers rattle. (OK, this is not the biggest problem the world faces, hence the title thread.)
The answer:
Put thick plastic tubing on the racks rails so their diameter is the same as the gurt big hooks on the Ortlieb panniers.
The "How to" section:
i bought this on eBay:

Description: Clear PVC Hose Pipe Tubing - Food Grade - Fish Pond Car Aquariums Air Line Tube [10mm ID x 16mm OD (thick wall),2.0 Metre Lengt , Item # 261408670856 Qty: 1 Unit Price: 5.24 GBP
I then cut it into lengths the same as the racks (these are the front racks from Thorn, I've also done it on the Thorn Expedition rear rack and the rear rack (Tortec I think) on the audax bike), then slit it lengthwise and popped it on (this is quite tricky as the piping is quite thick and is tough material). Like this:

Just a few tiny cable ties to hold them in place (not really necessary I suspect but I had 850 cable ties in a plastic container so why not?),

some black spinnaker tape to make it look "proper" and Bob's your uncle.
so now those small tiny little miniature inserts from Ortlieb can go back into the bottom of the panniers and stop falling off/out/slipping sideways as they do.
Was this worth a fiver and an hour or so of fettling? Maybe. Of course I could have just bunged some Araldite on the little inserts so they didn't move, but then they'd be there for ever and one day I might want to remove them.

Re: Ridgeway - Avebury to Uffington

8 May 2016 - 7:35am
I'm in Newbury and so know the western end of this, say from Goring to Uffington. At the moment its okay and was heading that way this morning on the MTB. It does get mucky, but you'd need heck of a down pour now to make it unusable. It is rough and deeply rutted in places though, I've got a Specialized Cross and I'm not sure I'd want to do much of it on that.

Re: Rail: To Oban

7 May 2016 - 11:51pm
gloomyandy wrote:I know this may seem like heresy, but have you considered taking the car (if you have one that can carry your bikes)? This would give you the option of parking in Oban (various secure parking options or park on a quiet street), or even taking it out to the islands (easy and safe to park your car there). This would give you the option of and early return if you need it, or if you take the car out to the islands having an alternate way of getting around if the weather is not so good. I've toured on the islands a number of times and have always opted to drive to Oban (or sometimes to Uig on Skye). I've also stayed on the islands and have taken my car over (with bikes) and will be doing so again later this year. The ferry costs are not that high and it has always been pretty stress free.
Car would be my choice too, and now the ferry prices are even cheaper thanks to the new 'road equivalent tariifs'.

Re: Rail: To Oban

7 May 2016 - 9:52pm
I went up to Oban for the Barra ferry a couple of years ago. Didn't find the train a problem. Apart from the 5 mins needed to get off the train and get on the ferry buying a ticket on the way. That was a bit rushed, oh, and having to hang the bike on hangers on the Virgin. I'm going up to Mallaig in a couple of weeks with my bike en route to the Western Isles again. Wigan to Glasgow by Trans Pennine Express with a reserved bike place for £12 something and Glasgow to Mallaig again with a reserved bike space for the extortionate cost of £34. Guess it's the luck of the draw, and helps if you aren't tied to a specific day of travel. Mind you, I'll have to stay in a hostel overnight at Mallaig as the ferries and the trains appear to have been planned not to connect Coming back I'm going to cycle from Oban down to Arran, ferry to Wemyss and local train to Glasgow and then back to the North West.
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