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Re: How can a Brooks be the preferred touring saddle?

19 May 2016 - 12:19pm
ChrisF wrote:I've been very happy with my Brooks (Swift) for 3 years (3 two-week tours plus a few day rides) and was planning on a trip again next month. But yesterday the tension pin snapped and it now has to go back to Brooks for repair (£25) - seems it's v. difficult to repair these without special tools. A bit of Googling suggests I'm by far not the only one to have this problem.
Anyway, glad it happened yesterday and not 1-2 days into my next trip. Not sure if I'll get the repaired unit back in time; if not it's back to the old cheap saddle

This happened to my B17, but I managed to repair it myself, after getting a similar quote from Brooks. I bought a new nose bolt from SJS cycles in Bridgwater for about a fiver. The tricky bit is stretching the saddle enough to get it over the new nose bolt. I managed to do this using a flat screwdriver and the nose bolt as a fulcrum. Not easy but possible. I would also agree about the repaired saddle becoming "stiff". Mine used to sag quite a bit but is now rock hard again, even with the nosebolt not extended at all.

Where to leave the car

19 May 2016 - 11:54am
Hi all

I am taking by bikes over to Germany for a weeks bike tour with my wife - based round the Moselle valley route

I will be starting from Trier, but will need to leave the car for about a week. Any experience of good places to leave the car - either at Trier or generally?

Thanks for any ideas

Richard

Re: How can a Brooks be the preferred touring saddle?

19 May 2016 - 7:22am
Sorry your tour was cut short. It looks like the repaired saddle is just not ready for long rides. Brooks (and similar) leather saddles do have maintenance and breaking in issues that foam filled saddles don't have, so if you are lucky enough to be able to get comfortable on the foam ones I would say that is the way to go. Possibly cheaper too.

Re: Gas cannisters in Holland and Belgium

18 May 2016 - 10:33pm
And here is one I prepared earlier based on my experience

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Re: How can a Brooks be the preferred touring saddle?

18 May 2016 - 9:07pm
pwa wrote:quilkin wrote:I've been very happy with my Brooks (Swift) for 3 years (3 two-week tours plus a few day rides) and was planning on a trip again next month. But yesterday the tension pin snapped and it now has to go back to Brooks for repair (£25) - seems it's v. difficult to repair these without special tools. A bit of Googling suggests I'm by far not the only one to have this problem.
Anyway, glad it happened yesterday and not 1-2 days into my next trip. Not sure if I'll get the repaired unit back in time; if not it's back to the old cheap saddle

Hope you get it back in time. You might consider a Gilles Berthoud in preference to a Brooks next time, because they can be completely disassembled and rebuilt by yourself, using replacement bits if anything breaks.

I did get it back in time, but my decision to tour was delayed by cold wet weather in April so I left it until May, and have just returned. But the repaired saddle didn't feel 'right' and after four days I shortened my tour because it's just so uncomfortable and I'm getting saddle sore for the first time in years (last year the same saddle took me two weeks across France with zero problems). Seems like the repaired saddle is as stiff as a new one, and has lost all my 'moulding', and will need breaking in again with shorter day rides. On the other hand, I also recently hired bikes twice in Spain, with undefined (probably cheap) saddles and ridden each for a week without any discomfort. So I'm wondering about the point of the Brooks. It looks nice though.

Re: Gas cannisters in Holland and Belgium

18 May 2016 - 8:04pm
bohrsatom wrote: but perhaps the puncture style ones are more widespread at campsites because a) they're cheaper for campsite owner to buy and b) they probably don't sell many so may have been hanging around for many years.

Or becaise they're the what their customers ask for? If you're a typical punter with a Camping Gaz stove you're probably not going to replace it until it breaks - which could mean decades.

There's a world of difference between what you might find in a town with B&Q-type shops and what you'll find in small villages. I've been on the road for 6 weeks and apart from stumbling upon Decathlon in Ajaccio I haven't seem anything that even remotely resembled a B&Q/ Mr Bricolage. I'm sure CV and EN-standard cartridges are readily available, but you may have to seek them out.

Re: iPhone GPS Navigation in Holland

18 May 2016 - 7:56pm
MapOut is excellent. Thanks again.

Re: Gas cannisters in Holland and Belgium

18 May 2016 - 7:18pm
I found the CV-style CampingGaz canisters readily available in 4 months of France/Germany/Switzerland/Austria/Czech/NL and Belgium. In general we found them in supermarkets/B&Q-like shops and only got the Primus threaded canisters when we came across a camping shop, outdoor store or decathlon (which are much more widespread in Central Europe than the UK).

Andymiller's experience is different, so as usual take all advice with a pinch of salt, but perhaps the puncture style ones are more widespread at campsites because a) they're cheaper for campsite owner to buy and b) they probably don't sell many so may have been hanging around for many years.

To be sure you can always use any type of canister then bring both converters but IME the CV type are easy to get hold of and an additional advantage is the converter takes up less space

Re: Gas cannisters in Holland and Belgium

18 May 2016 - 6:20pm
andrew_s wrote:andymiller wrote:IME you don't actually see these very often - the cartridges I mainly see in campsite shops and supermarkets are the puncture type.
How long ago is your experience?
It's illegal to sell puncture-style stoves (on Euro H&S grounds), and has been for a number of years, so the canisters for them are gradually becoming less and less common.

I've seen them in campsite shops in recent weeks in both Corsica and Sardegna. In fact I've just popped into the shop of the campsite where I am now and they have three. None of the other sort. Excuse the crappy picture, but I rest my case.

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I'm in Italy and northern Europe may be different because firms like Primus have a stronger presence.

It may be illegal to put the stoves on the market but there are an awful lot of people who have them and Camping Gaz are still selling the canisters. And as I say IME they are the ones you are most likely to find outside the specialist shops.

psmiffy wrote:andymiller wrote: resealable camping gaz cartridges. IME you don't actually see these very often - the cartridges I mainly see in campsite shops and supermarkets are the puncture type. I think Edelrid do an adapter for these as well.

This surprises me - Belgium and Holland - in my experience I have found the blue CV cylinders are readily available - in all sizes - in most large supermarkets and in pretty much all home improvement stores - the primus type ive not seen outside good outdoors shops in the larger towns - Ive not been in a decathlon in Belgium or Holland but in most other countries where I have been in a decathlon they carried both types

I dont leave home without at least one eldrid adaptor (CV to primus)

https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/page/pic/?o=tS&pic_id=1192076&size=large

I wouldn't bother with the adaptor for puncture type cartridge - I did have one - arrived in Greece off the plane and surmised beforehand that I wouldnt be going anywhere in the first couple of days where I would be able to buy either primus or CV - it was a good plan - 30ks down the road I found some piercable cartridges in a tiny dirty garage - however, I carried the adaptor without using again it for another 10years before it fell apart

I did use the words in supermarkets and campsite shops. Yes in larger supermarkets, specialist shops etc you have a better chance.

Personally I would go to the trouble of finding a Decathlon or a Beaver and stocking up. But if you are going to carry an adapter I think the type for the puncture canisters could be more useful. Or carry one of the ultralight 'soda can' alcohol stoves - not ideal if you have four people to cook for, but you could get by with one until you found a shop that had canisters.

Re: Gas cannisters in Holland and Belgium

18 May 2016 - 5:38pm
andymiller wrote:IME you don't actually see these very often - the cartridges I mainly see in campsite shops and supermarkets are the puncture type.
How long ago is your experience?
It's illegal to sell puncture-style stoves (on Euro H&S grounds), and has been for a number of years, so the canisters for them are gradually becoming less and less common.

Re: Gas cannisters in Holland and Belgium

18 May 2016 - 4:56pm
andymiller wrote: resealable camping gaz cartridges. IME you don't actually see these very often - the cartridges I mainly see in campsite shops and supermarkets are the puncture type. I think Edelrid do an adapter for these as well.

This surprises me - Belgium and Holland - in my experience I have found the blue CV cylinders are readily available - in all sizes - in most large supermarkets and in pretty much all home improvement stores - the primus type ive not seen outside good outdoors shops in the larger towns - Ive not been in a decathlon in Belgium or Holland but in most other countries where I have been in a decathlon they carried both types

I dont leave home without at least one eldrid adaptor (CV to primus)

https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/page/pic/?o=tS&pic_id=1192076&size=large

I wouldn't bother with the adaptor for puncture type cartridge - I did have one - arrived in Greece off the plane and surmised beforehand that I wouldnt be going anywhere in the first couple of days where I would be able to buy either primus or CV - it was a good plan - 30ks down the road I found some piercable cartridges in a tiny dirty garage - however, I carried the adaptor without using again it for another 10years before it fell apart

Re: New Route Planner

18 May 2016 - 3:28pm
Slightly random semi-related question: does anyone know how to find the total length of cycle tracks in the UK from OSM?

Re: New Route Planner

18 May 2016 - 2:56pm
I'm not sure about the cycling GPSs, but IIRC the outdoor models (etrex etc.) have a setting for adjusting the amount of pre-warning under the bizarre heading of "off road transitions" in the routing menu.

Re: New Route Planner

18 May 2016 - 2:23pm
Hm - just googled that (my own Garmin is an ancient eTrex so no help!). It looks like the Edge only announces the notifications at the actual turn itself, rather than "looking ahead"; so to get advance notification, I'd have to shift the notification in the .tcx file to 30m or so earlier.

Any Garmin experts able to confirm this? It looks like RideWithGPS offers this as a premium option ("Notify Before Turn"), and I'm not averse to adding stuff to cycle.travel for free which is paid-for on other sites.

My son's Balkan tour

18 May 2016 - 1:27pm
I'm way past my touring days alas, and I don't often come to this section.

My son however has taken it up with alacrity and has just completed a 6-week, 1300 mile solo tour of the southern Balkans, taking in Albania, a small part of Greece, Macedonia and Kosovo. He doesn't post on this forum so I offered to put up the link to his blog.

Some of it has been rather hastily put together (he's just set off today on another long trip - sans bike - to the Far East). But hopefully a useful read for some on here.

Re: Long touring without front panniers

18 May 2016 - 1:24pm
Bicycler wrote:Rather than buying a new bike you could just replace the suspension fork. Surly have a few suspension corrected forks with front carrier braze-ons. Or you could use any suitable rigid fork and a clamp on or axle-mounted carrier.

Thanks dude! I'll look into it.

Re: New Route Planner

18 May 2016 - 1:24pm
Yep that sounds like the problem! Thanks for taking a look at it and for all of the effort in providing the tool!

Since I have your attention When you come to turns etc. you will get a notification to turn left/right etc. Is there any way to get this notification sooner? With my Edge 520 I often don't get the notification until after I have actually turned the corner or whatever. This may be down to my edge lagging a little when following a course, but if there was a way to get the information earlier I'd probably use it.

Thanks again!

Re: New Route Planner

18 May 2016 - 1:11pm
Ah - looks like OSM didn't have the road marked as a double carriageway, so cycle.travel thought it could just turn right onto a single carriageway. I've just fixed it and it should be ok as of the next map update.

Re: Cycling from Lourdes to Perpignan

18 May 2016 - 1:03pm
I'm currently cycling from Perpignan to Andorra. Then I'm heading into Spain. The highest pass is around 8000ft I believe!

Re: Gas cannisters in Holland and Belgium

18 May 2016 - 12:11pm
The adapter you link to is for the resealable camping gaz cartridges. IME you don't actually see these very often - the cartridges I mainly see in campsite shops and supermarkets are the puncture type. I think Edelrid do an adapter for these as well.
 
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