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Re: Where to leave the car

20 May 2016 - 11:32am
Same as above. I offer the campsite a "fee" for leaving my car, and so far they have said yes to leaving the car and no to my offer of money.

Re: south italy nightmare...help!

20 May 2016 - 10:31am
We were there in Southern Italy about three weeks ago and found the coast road from Maratea northward around the Cilento Peninsula to Agropoli to be very pleasant. In two weeks cycling met only two other (Canadian) cycle tourists!

Re: New Route Planner

20 May 2016 - 9:45am
Glad people like it! Clicking it twice for new routes is 100% intentional. Broadly speaking, it works by choosing a bearing (e.g. due north), and looking for a route around that bearing. Clicking the button again chooses a new random bearing.

The urban issue is interesting. cycle.travel already has a slight overall penalty for routes in cities, mostly to stop long-distance routes gratuitously swerving into cities where there are lots of traffic-free routes (e.g. Birmingham on LEJOG). Ultimately I'd like to "paint" each route with some sort of attractiveness score - so the Regent's Canal towpath, for example, is more attractive than the roadside path along the A4 in West London. But doing that with standard database queries is really slow. I think I know how I can do it, but it'll require some pretty complex coding. Would be fun though...

Re: south italy nightmare...help!

20 May 2016 - 9:20am
Will watch this thread with interest. Gioia Tauro is infamous as a hotbed of the fearsome 'ndrangheta, who some have said make the mafia look like pussies. A very substantial part of Italy's trade goes through the massive port and that organisation makes sure that it gets its cut of everything.

Re: New Route Planner

20 May 2016 - 8:50am
It's quite nice to go take a look at a big city on two wheels, isn't it?

Re: south italy nightmare...help!

20 May 2016 - 8:12am
I recently (3 weeks ago) rode from Amantea down to Gioia Tauro. After two days of dealing with uninteresting sights and lots of traffic, I took the train from Gioia Tauro to Messina (ferry to Messina). My advice would be to take the train up to Maratea and save yourself the torture of riding that portion of the coast.

The road north from Maratea is much prettier.

Re: south italy nightmare...help!

20 May 2016 - 4:26am
Many thanks...looks like Maratea or bust!

Re: south italy nightmare...help!

20 May 2016 - 1:10am
I see there's a Decathlon in Gioia Tauro, out on the Via Nazionale ss111 just south east of where it crosses the a3, which is the opposite of what you asked for but may be of use anyway.

Or, on the ss111, 200m SE of where it meets the ss18 is Barbaro Moto Yamaha, a moto shop with some pics of (pedal) bikes on exterior.
Via Strada Statale 111, 49, 89013 Gioia Tauro RC, Italy

I came upon a cycling blog saying how dreadful Rosarno was in 2015. Racial tensions, black guys on bikes, white guys in cars, piles of rubbish everywhere, just a bad scene. But if you get towards Maratea, things look up! http://www.bikemotorpoint.com/ seems like a good repair bet if you need one towards the end of day 2.

Re: Where to leave the car

19 May 2016 - 11:04pm
Ditto, we have left the car at:- YHA; Scotland and Ireland, campsites in Poland and Scotland, or hotel....... offer a donation or they may have a small charge .. think in Poland the charge was equivalent to about £5. Scottish campsite it was probably around £20.

Re: New Route Planner

19 May 2016 - 10:14pm
matt_twam_asi wrote:I'm not sure if it's a bug or a feature (I suspect the latter), but is it supposed to suggest a different set of routes if you click the button more than once?
I'd hope so, it's a nice feature but a bit inconsistent (which might not be it's fault - how is it meant to know the difference between a paved cycleway alongside a dual carriageway and one through lovely countryside). It definitely helps to be able to tell it to calculate another if its first attempt isn't what you want.

Richard - as these circular rides are for leisure, not transport, could urban routes be given a penalty so that there is less propensity for it to generate routes into big towns and cities?

Re: New Route Planner

19 May 2016 - 9:50pm
That looks fan-blimmin-tastic. Thanks Richard!

Re: New Route Planner

19 May 2016 - 9:14pm
Paulatic wrote:New feature doesn't appear to load.
Using IPad iOS 9.3.2

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Have you tried clearing your browser's cache? Just a guess.

Excellent new feature Richard. I'm not sure if it's a bug or a feature (I suspect the latter), but is it supposed to suggest a different set of routes if you click the button more than once?

Re: south italy nightmare...help!

19 May 2016 - 8:14pm
go into the grubbiest looking bar/cafe and ask, then another, and another. stop a roadie and ask.

EDIT: if the language is a problem for you then take heart that you'll probably have a better outcome because of it...

south italy nightmare...help!

19 May 2016 - 8:09pm
Hi guys,
My tour of south Italy is going badly wrong!
My bike was trashed this morning, in an embarassing incident I will share when I get to a proper computer.
In short, 2 wheels wrecked, rear brakes broken, handlebar destroyed, and a badly mangled ortlieb.
After a 5km walk, I got a bike shop that replaced wheels, bar and brakes for 170 euros.
40km later, I realise I have back wheel wobble and gears are slipping.
Tightened up, but still not right.
Does anybody know decent bike shops on my next leg of the journey...
Gioia Taura to Paola tomorrow
Paola to Maratea the day after

Preferrably a wee old man that is cheap, rather than an expensive modern bike shop!
I am running low on cash and time now.

Very long shot I know!

Re: New Route Planner

19 May 2016 - 7:39pm
All ok on my iPad. Richard: One day we are all going to bully Queeny into giving you a well deserved knighthood for exemplary services to dreamy, cycle tourists. You are nearing 'David Attenborough' status in my opinion.

Thank you for at least the 17th time [emoji106]

Re: New Route Planner

19 May 2016 - 7:19pm
Cycle.travel new feature works fine on my iPad mini; iOS 9.3.1.

Re: Where to leave the car

19 May 2016 - 5:49pm
I don't know the area but we've been successful before by asking the campsite that we stayed in when we arrived. Same would go for a hotel that's not got loads of parking pressure I should think. Otherwise try a local warm showers person either for somewhere to leave it or advice.

Re: New Route Planner

19 May 2016 - 5:21pm
New feature doesn't appear to load.
Using IPad iOS 9.3.2


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Re: New Route Planner

19 May 2016 - 4:46pm
New feature time!

I've just added a "Suggest a ride" button to the route-planner. Enter a start place, click the button, and it'll suggest two or three circular rides you can try. Drag the slider if you want a shorter/longer route, then click the one you want.

It usually comes up with enjoyable routes, especially in rural areas and for longer distances. There's a couple of things I still need to iron out (it sometimes chooses routes that aren't really circular, more like two out-and-back rides) but it's generally fun and fast.

I've also tweaked the placename entry on the route-planner so it autocompletes your typing.

Re: How can a Brooks be the preferred touring saddle?

19 May 2016 - 1:33pm
Spa Cycles Nidd saddle. All day. For months. Almost exactly the same as a Brook's B17, but half the price. I actually think the leather is a little thicker, so it took a bit longer to break in.
 
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